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KU
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On 2009-08-06 14:23:53, Dups! wrote:
N97 the king? For you maybe.
You're missing the point. The Iphone is just pretty UI, the Pixon is a non smartphone and the HD is the only one that stands up to Satio even with an 8 mp camera.
So, all of those phones (besides the HD) you mentioned don't stand up to Satio. Also your 'king', the N97 has a weak processor thus hampering its speed.
I'm talking about upcoming competition from Nokia, Samsung and LG not what you brought up as competition.
Sorry but the N97 is a best seller but I am waiting to have a SE touch smartphone like the Satio, X2 or X3 even if the upcoming phones instead of maybe the HTC firestone | |
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On 2009-07-25 17:57:18, GUCCI.011 wrote:
OMG!! Are they still planning to release the Satio?  thought it was cancelled or somethin. . . . . 
PMSL Quality, post of the day! Are you listening  thats your customers speaking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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And I got flamed when I dared to suggest this device was going to be too expensive and late.... But I am right again I see!
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August 31st...Too late? Are you on drugs??
The N97 sells for 500 pounds in the UK. It is million times better and is 40 pound more costly. Gawd!! |
Dups!
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@KU
Sales are an entirely different matter, my problem was you labelling the N97 'the king'. Trust me that is among the less impressive Nokias. It is not the N95/N95 8GB, N82, E71 which could easily wear the title of 'the king'. The N97 is average and nothing special.
In terms of sales SE is unlikely to touch Nokia but Satio can touch the N97's sales if marketed properly.
The N97 will not be another 5800.
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It's in the news that Symbian^4 will never going to be compatible with current S60 and will be phase out in the near future. Is it wise not to get any S60 device right now regardless of brandname? Man, this is my dilemma. I'm so wanting to get Satio... |
se_dude
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Symbian^4 will probably be out in 2011 or thereafter. No use wasting your sleep over it. |
KU
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On 2009-08-06 17:12:30, Dups! wrote:
@KU
Sales are an entirely different matter, my problem was you labelling the N97 'the king'. Trust me that is among the less impressive Nokias. It is not the N95/N95 8GB, N82, E71 which could easily wear the title of 'the king'. The N97 is average and nothing special.
In terms of sales SE is unlikely to touch Nokia but Satio can touch the N97's sales if marketed properly.
The N97 will not be another 5800.
I hope you've got true for the sales cause I agree with you when you say that the N97 isn't the best hardware around but it is a nokia Nseries new phone |
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i was keeping an eye on the satio, and was interested, but then i saw the omnia hd, played with it, bought it. Goodbye satio. |
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NOKIA N97 does exactly what its meant to do, very well i might add, offcourse HW wise its lacking a bit,its certainly not my fav phone, id rather get a Sam Innov8 or OmniaHD, BUT the N97 seems to be very fast through the UI and pretty stable showing that NOKIA actualy work hard to Optimize a phones software to work well with the hardware, and take full advantage of it unlike some manufacturers.
NOKIA N97 one of the worst high-ends?  nah,try P990, and K850. The point is it does EXACTLY what it says on the box very well, or is the looks more important than that? PMPL.
Dups
I agree, N97 is a bit average compared to OmniaHD, but thats it, i cant see another smartphone as highly specd both software and hardware wise at the same time as both of them out right now, both can be a smartphone and dumbphone at the "tap" of a screen.
I have to say,the Satio has had me interested,if i had the cash and it was out id probably get it, its an S60 SE with TI OMAP3430 CPU, WHAT MORE WOULD I WANT!? I just hope its as good as a OmniaHD. SE must prove to me that its worth paying over $600 for a Multimedia Phone that doesnt even have a proper headphones jack.
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OMAP 3430 in Satio or Omnia is something i wouldn't get crazy of. its graphics capabilities except the SGX535 in iphone are pretty underpowered especially with competitors like tegra, hummingbird which is symbian capable and snapdragon (the 8250 and the dual core) those phones can render 3D-heavy graphics and HD video without compromising sound/bit-rate quality in which the OmniaHD has failed. once Vulcan and Rachael is released Satio will lose its ground if ever it become successful. 
Also i laughed hard at this incompatibility thing with Symbian 4. for what reason did they drive SE to kill UIQ for if the overhyped S60-compatibility is going to cease for extinction as well? the great promise of a very appealing User interface at the UIQ showroom should've been choosen instead of relying on an outdated and boring interface the S605th has to offer.
I really feel that Android and WebOS is going to kill symbian soon.
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se_dude
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It still remains the S60 with the best UI. S60 users would vouch for it. |
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Razec
OmniaHD recently got an update to improve the sound quality in HD video recording from AMR to AAC audio. the 535 is in the PalmPre as well AFAIK, ultimately i seem to be following that chipset instead of an OS
Se_dude
I agree, but even I as a huge S60 fan am looking to the darkside, ive been keeping an eye the Palm PRE, im not so keen on Android. All i want is a "future safe" OS, and im starting to get cold feet about symbian all these changes.
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I guess we have to see how it works. The menus have been heavily customized and the multimedia features have been cranked up too. The palm pre looks pretty good but the Satio has the camera over them which may attract a few more users. With Symbian releasing a unified app-store in November, i think the Satio holds a very good chance of capturing the people's interests. |
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On 2009-08-06 17:30:11, titus1 wrote:
It's in the news that Symbian^4 will never going to be compatible with current S60 and will be phase out in the near future. Is it wise not to get any S60 device right now regardless of brandname? Man, this is my dilemma. I'm so wanting to get Satio...
Dude ... that's not news you're reading. You're readin junk that is SPUN on Engadget and Gizmodo the SAME press outfit that has run S60 and Symbian's name in the MUD (we all know what MUD spells backwards  ).
Symbian-Foundation has stated this MONTHS ago ... actually almost 9-12mths ago when they FIRST started. This is NOTHING new at all.
The same shite you've been reading about Symbian-Foundation "Good for users, BAD for programmers" tag lines was stated before about 3 - 3.5yrs ago when S60 3rd Edition debuted. All the naye sayers THEN said S60 was dead. All the gamers would leave instantly because no more taco-gaming on QD and such. Nokia, Samsung, LG has proven them ALL wrong.
Face it. Technology adapts and this time a 10yr "mature" OS that started its roots in Psion is getting better and better. And now its OPEN.
On 2009-08-07 05:50:47, GUCCI.011 wrote:
Razec
OmniaHD recently got an update to improve the sound quality in HD video recording from AMR to AAC audio. the 535 is in the PalmPre as well AFAIK, ultimately i seem to be following that chipset instead of an OS
Se_dude
I agree, but even I as a huge S60 fan am looking to the darkside, ive been keeping an eye the Palm PRE, im not so keen on Android. All i want is a "future safe" OS, and im starting to get cold feet about symbian all these changes.
^ You want a "future safe" OS?
Safe as in investment in your applications .... You better avoid WebOS.
WebOS is what was left after Palm OS and Palm Source avoiding Colbalt = Palm OS 6 6yrs ago.
WebOS has not documented anything regarding security and it is still very young.
WebOS is what was left after Palm OS got pig headed and rejected Access' Linux offering 2yrs ago.
^ WebOS has one MAJOR plus above the current smartphone OS' in use now = Mutliple Exchange Server synchronizations (this is sweet).
But to me - in my humble opinion its still a fancy iPhone that was done right. However I worry that even though Linux kernel is at its core ... its not as open-source as LiMo Foundation or Android or Symbian OS currently is undergoing & transitioning to a complete open-source OS. And I don't use "complete" sparringly or lightly here.
Symbian:
This is the OS that started its life in powerful PDA's that offered NATIVE MS Word/Excel display (on a B&W screen of course) when Palm was considered the KING of the PDA world (just before the Palm IIIc. Not even PPC2002 had this done right.
This is the OS that dispite the Android fan fare has LASTED the varying market segments and market places GLOBALLY.
This is the OS that can run on a netbook with off-the-shelf parts from Intel.
This is the ONLY OS that is capable of SMP Semetric Multi-Processing. This was capable in OS 9.3 - and until ARM Cortex A8 cpu could not be fully exploited. I see ONLY iPhone coming close or capable within 2yrs due to its OS X core; Android should too however its Linux Kernel is stripped down pretty big.
future safe?
Symbian in its 10+yrs has suffered LESS virii than Windows 98, XP, ME, or 2KPro individually and almost comparable to OS X's virii record. Also note though that Symbian has less security holes that have been updated amongst them ALL.
Palm was nothing and is nothing without the original 4 former Apple employees ... now 7. Should Apple decide to law down the gauntlet ... they have MORE than enough leverage to win in court 3x over - and their lawyers are pretty blood thirsty (mental issues since the whole Windows3.1 saga I'll bet).
Symbian OS in version 3 or 4 will most likely go head to head with Ubuntu, other Linii, and Android for MID or smartphone supremacy.
WebOS doesn't support Lotus Domino which leaves out 30-32% of the corporate email marketplace - and as a contractor I need to be able to switch to both with my smartphone of choice. Unfortunately more and more financial corporations are relying on RSA SecureID's to leverage webmail/OWA even for direct salary employees and its the damn shame and a pain in the arse and seriously expensive.
I'd trust Microsoft more in the smartphone space than Palm currently. Palm has the nice layer and multitasking done right - though that calendar looks more busy and crammed no matter how full 5-10 meeting/pay/5-day week looks on it ~ much worse than Palm's previous PIM organization.
Don't just go for the gui look and feel. Get the substance first; because after the first week of showing the OS off to your friends ... its ALL comes down to how that smartphone serves your NEEDS before your wants. Like you WANT the hottest girl in the world, and NEED a girl what wants you above the next guy and is happy just to see you look at her and keeps you well at night if you bump your head. Most of us don't get both all the time ... but if you DO get both ... BONUS!! Your smartphone ... you should NEVER sacrifice your needs to wants or wants to needs.
Make your choice ... just be informed based on what you want.
For those worried about evolving OS ... don't worry your applications will evolve with it or a better app will come along.
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