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NightBlade
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Posted: 2011-12-17 00:53
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No wonder it's called tapioca. They had better not brand that Xperia!
stais
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Posted: 2011-12-17 01:24
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aurelius, judging by the weather in the photo with the Swedish context, (Vår kokbok + warm weather), those pictures must be rather old?

Edit: looking at the others (esp the one with pepparkakshus) I guess they probably just brought the book to a warmer climate....


So nevermind me.
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Posted: 2011-12-17 06:51
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Sony Ericsson holding press conference on 11 January 2012 in Shanghai
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Posted: 2011-12-17 07:00
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...and the guy who wrote that hasn't even added "Xperia" to his dictionary
I have a dig bick
You read that wrong
AkuKL
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Posted: 2011-12-17 07:07
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Looking forward to Sony 2012 models.
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Posted: 2011-12-17 08:53
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Just hope that when sony really takes over, they will give their products the best camera sensors/ optics available. Since N82 arrival, no SE has had the best camera on the market. No more chroma noise, pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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Posted: 2011-12-17 09:37
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That camera samples are very good. I can`t see agresive postprocessing and I hope Sony will keep it that way in the final version of the device.

If 3,2-inch is entry level smartphone with proccesor slower than all 2011 models we can suggest another step in screen resolution for Sony in 2012 and say Ray succesor will be 3,5 - 3,7 and Mini succesor will be 3,2 - 3,5 inch with bigger resolution. Whatever it`s going to happen, it will be interesting year for us.
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Posted: 2011-12-17 10:16
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I think ST21i Tapioca may be X8 successor.
argiriano
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Posted: 2011-12-17 10:34
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NenaMark 2 results for:
- ST-Ericsson U8500 (1GHz, Mali 400GPU, QHD screen, Android 2.3.5)
- Galaxy Nexus (TI Omap 4460 1,2 - 1,4GHz, PowerVR SGX 540 GPU, HD screen, Android 4.0.1)


Nypon can become one really good mid-range device.
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Posted: 2011-12-17 10:48
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So we have the Nypon, Tapioca, Pepper, Nozomi and that unnamed 13mp device. 5 devices at CES? Is it realistic to expect that? Or probably a couple at CES and 2-3 more at MWC?
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Posted: 2011-12-17 14:41
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Camera samples look amazing compared to the Arc, lighting is perfect, limited compression.

My only fear is that they are not from the device and instead from a digicam, they look almost too good to be true.
razec
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Posted: 2011-12-18 02:26
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On 2011-12-17 09:37:03, argiriano wrote:
That camera samples are very good. I can`t see agresive postprocessing and I hope Sony will keep it that way in the final version of the device.




Of course you can't after all we lose 11megapixels worth of resolution from the resized samples. If we try resizing C905 images to 2mp you'll hardly see the effects of overprocessing there. Its better for us not to expect much until we finally get some real res. samples also take my word Sony Cameras are known for aggressive NR even on their DLSR lines.

EDIT: Here is the site regarding the probable sensor model used by Nozomi,

http://www.sony.net/Products/[....]ws/vol65/imx081_091_111pq.html

and yes, no 12MP there, only 13mp and 16mp and 8mp is out of the question as far as the rumored specs are concerned.

This might be the sensor/s model to come with nozomi

IMX081PQ
■ Diagonal 6.52 mm (Type 1/2.8") 16.41M effective pixels
■ Frame rate: 15 frame/s

IMX091PQ
■ Diagonal 5.87 mm (Type 1/3.06") 13.25M effective pixels
■ Frame rate: 15 frame/s

Also worth noting was this new 8mp sensor model by sony which I believe was the one used on iPhone 4s (no wonder that phone outperformed Arc and the rest of 2011 8mp Xperias)

IMX111PQ
■ Diagonal 4.60 mm (Type 1/4.0) 8.17M effective pixels
■ Frame rate: 22.5 frame/s

All sensors provide full HD video recording at 30/60FPS, with this i'm pretty sure Nozomi can send iPhone 4S's camera performance packing
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Posted: 2011-12-18 10:41
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Correct me if I'm wrong. What we got:

Sony Ericsson LT28at/LT28i/Aoba
1,5GHz dual-core, 4.55″, 720x1280px, 13mpx with Full HD

Sony Ericsson LT26i/Nozomi
1,5GHz dual-core, 4.3″, 720x1280px, 12mpx(?) with Full HD

Sony Ericsson LT22i/Nypon
1GHz dual-core, 4″, 540x960px, 8mpx Exmor R

Sony Ericsson MT27i/Pepper
1GHz dual-core, 3.7″, 480x854px, 5mpx

Sony Ericsson ST25i
Xperia mini successor, 480x854px

Sony Ericsson ST21i/Tapioca
800MHz, 3.2″, 320x480px, 3.2mpx
Karun
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Posted: 2011-12-18 21:39
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On 2011-12-18 10:41:19, sunrise_ wrote:


Sony Ericsson LT28at/LT28i/Aoba
1,5GHz dual-core, 4.55″, 720x1280px, 13mpx with Full HD

Sony Ericsson LT26i/Nozomi
1,5GHz dual-core, 4.3″, 720x1280px, 12mpx(?) with Full HD




Two phones with not so different specs. Will SE take the risk of cannibalizing its own product?
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Posted: 2011-12-18 21:49
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On 2011-12-18 21:39:30, Karun wrote:

On 2011-12-18 10:41:19, sunrise_ wrote:


Sony Ericsson LT28at/LT28i/Aoba
1,5GHz dual-core, 4.55″, 720x1280px, 13mpx with Full HD

Sony Ericsson LT26i/Nozomi
1,5GHz dual-core, 4.3″, 720x1280px, 12mpx(?) with Full HD




Two phones with not so different specs. Will SE take the risk of cannibalizing its own product?



They wont be realised in the same regions together, hence the 'at' and the 'i' at the end of them.
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