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pinguino1
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Why Xperia hasn't announced carriers in North America?
Blame Apple
This report explains why? Carriers subsidies for high end phones are eating the profits. Expect in the future lower service rates but higher phone prices
http://www.reuters.com/articl[....]dType=nl&feedName=ustechnology
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On 2008-10-21 13:02:13, MyP910 wrote:
On 2008-10-21 11:52:01, WhyBe wrote:
Slow production maybe?
SE/HTC suppliers too slow or have supply shortages?
1) I don't think Xperia uses special component. I believe most of the parts are common.
2) Normally, as in Sony factory, we will have 2 or 3 suppliers for backup in case the main supplier having a problem or parts problem during mass-pro.
3) unless there is a special component, then we will have problem with shortage. as happen for sony PS3 in the beginning due to the shortage of blue laser diode.
4) I think, HTC has a big production capacity since they are OEM manufacturer for many brands.
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Oh well we can just put it down to Sony Ericson's specialty
INCOMPETENCE!!!
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WhyBe
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On 2008-10-21 16:07:01, pinguino2 wrote:
Why Xperia hasn't announced carriers in North America?
Blame Apple
X1a hasn't been announced yet. Remember, it is supposed to be announced on Nov 3.
Also, I haven't noticed high-end SE phones on display anywhere. Most people have no clue what my p910 is  I think SE just doesn't have a huge footprint in the U.S. |
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On 2008-10-21 06:57:59, WhyBe wrote:
@All
What is your prediction on sales volume of the X1 ?
Worldwide?
USA?
Europe?
Asia?
etc?
Do you think it will be hugely successful or just equal in numbers to other WM phones?
Worldwide = 7 he he. That's what SE makes people persive.
But seriously, This is a high end, high price device for power users and people who can afford it most others just will wish to have but can't afford.
As opposed to low end low price like the iPhone ($199) that a lot people will buy for simple entertainment or because it's cool.
Most of the people around the world buy mobiles phones tjust o make calls.
Any one has a chart of history sales for the top devices to have a point of reference and compare?
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pinguino1
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On 2008-10-21 19:20:02, WhyBe wrote:
On 2008-10-21 16:07:01, pinguino2 wrote:
Why Xperia hasn't announced carriers in North America?
Blame Apple
X1a hasn't been announced yet. Remember, it is supposed to be announced on Nov 3.
Also, I haven't noticed high-end SE phones on display anywhere. Most people have no clue what my p910 is I think SE just doesn't have a huge footprint in the U.S.
What 's happened is ridiculously extrange. I can't imagine a company of the caliber of SE ever doing such stupid things. At this point comon sense dictates that they are mute about a a serious problem/mistake. The Sweden phones don't look like the real final thing.
Normally there a lot of hype advertisement in advance specially for a high end device. iBut USA nothing! no tv,magazine, flyers nothing. I talk to many AT&T store managers and employees and they say Xperia? What?
Either At&t will not carry it or it is the biggest secret in the world. Based on the link I posted above I think AT&T is thinking dollars and sense before making a commitmemt.
If it goes unbranded. I don't mind it.
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What high-end SE phone has ever been carried by a provider in the U.S. ? |
norti
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The Sweden phones don't look like the real final thing.
Why? What means final to you? All missing (and not announced) features suddenly appear in the X1 or what?  |
santo911
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I played with an X1 today at Gitex...gr8 design, gr8 material...but the phone is a little slow... its the retail version and it will be out in 2 weeks here is Dubai, alongside with the C905...that is very ugly by the way... |
pinguino1
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On 2008-10-21 21:40:30, norti wrote:
The Sweden phones don't look like the real final thing.
Why? What means final to you? All missing (and not announced) features suddenly appear in the X1 or what?
Hi norti,
Certainly I don't have a Sweden X1 in my hand (In fact I have none) I didn't say they are not. I said it "looks" to me that after reading posts from dozens of "fortunate" Sweden owners, I noticed several have doubts and some even complain openly. In the other hand no one here can verify the actual final specs and on top of that SE stops shipping...?? what's going on here?
I don't know. Do you know?.
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On 2008-10-21 19:59:37, WhyBe wrote:
What high-end SE phone has ever been carried by a provider in the U.S. ?
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WhyBe
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Wow! That's terrible. |
pinguino1
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On 2008-10-21 19:59:37, WhyBe wrote:
What high-end SE phone has ever been carried by a provider in the U.S. ?
hi whybe,
None, really. I think the best ones are really medium range like w810, w760 with AT&T. I'm not too familiar with the other USA carriers.
Question: Why the high-end phones which are high priced sell like hot cakes in Europe while there almost non-existing in USA, I thought the big spenders were in USA.
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My guess is that the low-end and mid-end phones are being pushed so hard by the providers. The high-end stuff is usually off in the corner somewhere with the huge price tag above it. iPhone being the exception. Those shopping mall kiosks never have the high-end stuff in there either. Also, people don't like those high priced data plans you have to purchase along with the high-end phone. Why they are so successful in Europe ? I don't know. Maybe it's just a cultural difference--3G has been in Europe alot longer too, I believe. U.S. is relatively new to 3G. In the U.S., I think the iPhone, G1 (Android), and new Blackberries (Bold) will be the big selling smart phones.
I thought the big spenders were in USA.
We're a nation of frugal Wal-Mart shoppers. Don't let the movies, TV shows and music fool you
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imho iPhone isn't a high end device. Mundane camera, no generic bluetooth support (gprs modem, file transfer, pan etc), no flash, no mms, no handwriting, completely proprietary application platform, no mass storage support, no expandable memory, the list goes on and on. If it didn't have one or two of those things it could still be considered a high end device, but to be so short on BASIC features..?
It's a fancy feature phone in the upper end of that segment that appeals to a broad range of AVERAGE users who don't demand specific features that are considered de rigueur in a high end smartphone.
Many industry pundits proclaim iphone is not even a smartphone. For example Eric Zeman of Information Week: "The iPhone is not a smartphone. It is not meant for enterprise users. Apple may claim that it is a solid messaging device, that it syncs with your contacts databases, and that it can view Microsoft Word and Excel files, but it doesn't have near the enterprise integration capabilities that true smartphones offer. And it doesn't run third-party applications. (The Sarafi-based "apps" that Steve Jobs said developers could create for the iPhone don't count.) The iPhone may offer a fancy UI and other advanced interactivity, but in the end, most of the services it provides (Google Maps, music playback, video playback, SMS, mobile e-mail) are available on other, far-less-expensive feature phones."
Those who defend it as a smartphone say things like "The iPhone is worthy of being categorized as a smartphone by virtue of the way it integrates voice and data functions into one device," Carmi Levy, http://www.betanews.com/artic[....]ne_Not_a_Smartphone/1169746276
If that were the case, then every phone with 3G and call functionality could be classed as a smartphone! I admit the iphone is a fantastically engineered feature phone with some great UI innovations, but this does not make it a smartphone or a high end device.
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@max_wedge
Certainly isn't a high end device! One of my Swedish mates who moved from his "sluggish P1" to the iPhone 3G has just given his away to his daughter on the basis it simply does not do what his old P1 DOES!
A point I made to an O2 sales person last weekend when I went in to ask about the X1 and the clown tried to sell me an iPhone his response, "Yeah but d iPhone is cooler init" Muppet.
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