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pinguino1
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Posted: 2008-10-21 05:50
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WhyBe
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Posted: 2008-10-21 06:57
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@All

What is your prediction on sales volume of the X1 ?
Worldwide?
USA?
Europe?
Asia?
etc?

Do you think it will be hugely successful or just equal in numbers to other WM phones?
razec
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Posted: 2008-10-21 07:10
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Don't think it'll be hugely successful. but somehow i feel with it's more recognized/familiar name than other WM brands. it'll be more successful than other WM phones
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Posted: 2008-10-21 07:19
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On 2008-10-20 05:51:59, AbuBasim wrote:

On 2008-10-20 02:27:45, pinguino2 wrote:

Bengal Boy: ..."As for the Car start question,,, my X1i bluetooth profile menu is the most complete I've ever seen on a Windows Mobile Device. Thank you Sony Ericsson for putting your bluetooth stack on the S.E.X1!! Super Sexy!!"...

Very good news. Microsoft's own Bluetooth stack for Windows Mobile is not much better than what they provide with Windows XP SP2. With XP SP2's built-in stack you get PAN and file transfer and that's it. On WM they also add headset and A2DP but nothing else. And the A2DP doesn't work very well on most handsets. Only a few like the HTC Kaiser (TyTN II) can play stereo audio to an A2DP headset without the sound skipping or pausing. The X1 coming with SE's own bluetooth stack should guarantee skip-free sound, at least when paired with an SE headset.

I agree, this is fantastic news. BT stack on WM up to now is shit tbh...
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Posted: 2008-10-21 07:21
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Symbian Show starts today. I hope there will appear any information about UIQ Xperia. On SE-NSE forum weirdwilli says about Android Xperia (3Q2009) and Windows Mobile 7 Xperia (4Q2009). Nothing about UIQ Xperia. Do You think there won't be such a device sooner than 3Q or 4Q2009?
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Posted: 2008-10-21 07:32
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On 2008-10-21 07:21:23, Solos wrote:
Symbian Show starts today. I hope there will appear any information about UIQ Xperia. On SE-NSE forum weirdwilli says about Android Xperia (3Q2009) and Windows Mobile 7 Xperia (4Q2009). Nothing about UIQ Xperia. Do You think there won't be such a device sooner than 3Q or 4Q2009?

If all of these devices are indeed coming, there has to be something other than OS which differentiates them. I mean, if there is no difference, then SE might as well just release OS downloads for the existing X1 (which I doubt would happen). I don't see SE supporting too many OS'es. They would be spreading their development resources over duplicate functionality of each OS...a pointless move. I say, choose an OS or two and stick with it/them. Maybe WM and Symbian?
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Posted: 2008-10-21 07:43
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I learned from phonearena that Android (like iphone) also has killswitch
SE better stick with WM and Symbian (esp. that they are one of the founders of the new SF) as they have already invested there.
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On 2008-10-21 07:43:58, razec wrote:
SE better stick with WM and Symbian (esp. that they are one of the founders of the new SF) as they have already invested there.



Exactly. SE is one of the founders of SF. It would be... hmmm... strange not to release Symbian Xperia.

On the other hand, Android seems to be very quick. All systems should run so smoothly. Unfortunately neither Symbian nor WM do. I use N95 8GB and is far too slow for me. Too many lags.
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Fundamentally speaking, as any OS grows in sophistication, it too will become more sluggish. Thus the need for faster processors to accomodate. Android is new and lean and probably not as feature-rich as the older OS'es.

Look at this programming code for a Hello World program written for Symbian, iPhone, Android and WM.

As you see, WM seems to win in the development simplicity department.

[ This Message was edited by: WhyBe on 2008-10-21 07:23 ]
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On 2008-10-21 08:12:28, WhyBe wrote:
Fundamentally speaking, as any OS grows in sophistication, it too will become more sluggish. Thus the need for faster processors to accomodate. Android is new and lean and probably not as feature-rich as the older OS'es.

Look at this programming code for a Hello World program written for Symbian, iPhone, Android and WM.

As you see, WM seems to win in the development simplicity department.

[ This Message was edited by: WhyBe on 2008-10-21 07:23 ]



But in basic it's:

10 PRINT "HELLO WORLD"
20 GOTO 10




The fact is a more complex coding system will use lot's of code for simple things, but not much more code for far more complicated tasks.

A simple system will do simple things with only a line or two, but complex tasks will take many pages (if possible at all)

Note:

In J2ME, it's

Code:
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import javax.microedition.lcdui.Display;
import javax.microedition.midlet.MIDlet;
import javax.microedition.midlet.MIDletStateChangeException;

public class HelloWorld extends MIDlet {

public HelloWorld() {

}

protected void destroyApp(boolean conditional)
throws MIDletStateChangeException {

}

protected void pauseApp() {

}

public void startApp() throws MIDletStateChangeException {

Display.getDisplay(this).setCurrent(new HelloWorldCanvas());
}
}


Even J2ME is more complex than WM.

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Posted: 2008-10-21 10:42
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On 2008-10-21 06:57:59, WhyBe wrote:
@All

What is your prediction on sales volume of the X1 ?
Worldwide?
USA?
Europe?
Asia?
etc?

Do you think it will be hugely successful or just equal in numbers to other WM phones?


At the current delivery rate

About 25 Worldwide!
I have owned the ... T68i T610, P800, P900, P910, P990, W950, P1, W960 But SE have now totally lost the plot.
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Posted: 2008-10-21 10:46
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On 2008-10-21 07:52:29, Solos wrote:

On 2008-10-21 07:43:58, razec wrote:
SE better stick with WM and Symbian (esp. that they are one of the founders of the new SF) as they have already invested there.



Exactly. SE is one of the founders of SF. It would be... hmmm... strange not to release Symbian Xperia.

On the other hand, Android seems to be very quick. All systems should run so smoothly. Unfortunately neither Symbian nor WM do. I use N95 8GB and is far too slow for me. Too many lags.


From what I read on (I think it was) Engadget the android G1 is not very reliable requiring multiple restarts during a single day and far too dependent on a data connection for my liking.
I have owned the ... T68i T610, P800, P900, P910, P990, W950, P1, W960 But SE have now totally lost the plot.
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Posted: 2008-10-21 11:02
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I still don't understand. The phone has been delivered to Sweden, so what is stopping SE from deliver the phone to the rest ?

Is it production shortage ? very unlikely.
WhyBe
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Posted: 2008-10-21 11:52
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Slow production maybe?
SE/HTC suppliers too slow or have supply shortages?
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On 2008-10-21 11:52:01, WhyBe wrote:
Slow production maybe?
SE/HTC suppliers too slow or have supply shortages?


1) I don't think Xperia uses special component. I believe most of the parts are common.

2) Normally, as in Sony factory, we will have 2 or 3 suppliers for backup in case the main supplier having a problem or parts problem during mass-pro.

3) unless there is a special component, then we will have problem with shortage. as happen for sony PS3 in the beginning due to the shortage of blue laser diode.

4) I think, HTC has a big production capacity since they are OEM manufacturer for many brands.

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