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HxH
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Posted: 2014-03-27 15:48
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I really wonder how much THE COMPETITOR paid that guy to write bullsh*t fake review against other products

It once happen with HTC One last year.

I don't buy it just that!
[ This Message was edited by: HxH on 2014-03-27 14:49 ]
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miromiromi
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Posted: 2014-03-27 15:51
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@randomuser

i'm not saying the z2 is the best in those samples. i was just looking at the ISO and how they performed. the z2 does well preserving the details at ISOs not higher than 600. was just being optimistic sony finally made it with their smartphone cameras the fanboy really wants to see that struggling japanese company succeed.

there's an improvement. the softening in parts is still there. i'm about to think of it as a lens issue this time.

but i guess i'm not that competent in judging the photos. my monitor is defective.
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RandomCarpet
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Posted: 2014-03-27 15:54
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On 2014-03-27 14:42:44, xenia wrote:

On 2014-03-27 13:35:41, HxH wrote:


Oh meh, I just can't stop laughing.


One man wrote :
Saw the Z2 today....
Today was the offical pre order for Z2 in
Singapore. Was deciding to pre order one
and to sell off my current z1.. The moment I
picked up the Z2.. I was disappointed... The
display was not as fabulous as what was
reviewed.. Seriously, its slightly better then
the Z1, Not as good as the Z Ultra. I can
confirm that apart from the viewing angles
that Z1 lacks, its almost the same as the
Z2!! Infact sharper then the Z2! The camera
wise, just the lack of 4K recording, the rest
was infact the same as Z1 4.4... The Z2 still
captures Superior Auto in 8Mp. Still No
option to change the resolution in Superior
Auto. Sad....
The trade in Price for Z1 here in Singapore is
$450... The Z2 cost $998.... So its an
additional topup of $540 to buy an additional
0.2" screen, Slightly better screen (Because
of the Viewing Angles, but lost in Sharpness)
, an additional 1GB ram and a 4K recording
software..
In the end I hesitated and walk off the shop,
need to have a second thought.... So dear
Bros, I have tried the display set and this is
what I found out. Its up to u guys to see if
its a worth upgrade.... Z Ultra's screen is
still the best!!!
Just one question :"Again!?" It is not funny.


Well, of course the 5" 1080p display of Z1 will look slightly sharper than the 5.2" 1080p one of Z2. This is a no-brainer. The difference between 440ppi (5") and 423ppi (5.2") is hardly noticeable, but still some people are able to see it.
northmonkey
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Posted: 2014-03-27 15:55
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I'm not a Samsung fanboy so please don't think I am when I say this but I still think the S4 camera was better than the Z1 and I believe the S5 will be better than the Z2 camera.

I'm just shocked that companies like Samsung haven't added any lossless zoom to their cameras, the only disappointing thing with the S5 is the lack of zoom and lack of OIS, Sony have steadyshot which is quite good.
HxH
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Posted: 2014-03-27 15:55
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Nope, barely to none chances to see Japanese business fly up again.

Something that continue it clause when they signed Plaza Accord in mid-80.
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josephnero
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Posted: 2014-03-27 16:10
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@northmonkey
i beg to differ.just bought S4 to replace my TL Because i couldn't wait for Z2 to show up in states and i can honestly say camera is not up to excpetations.i was looking for a S2 type pics with little noise but nope.not saying it's aweful but not better than Z1 or 2.i heard Kitkat downgraded the cam quality but when i bought it it was already on Kitkat so i cannot confirm it
on side note i was going for Z1s but when i compared it's screen to my old TL i found out how crappy it is.way worse than TL.
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>>SAMEH
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Posted: 2014-03-27 16:47
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ever wonder what we would see from this beast 20mp Sony sensor if it was handle by iPhone or any other competitor,
well i guess it will push Sony to do alot to keep on par with them
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C905.. who'll be the next?
cu015170
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Posted: 2014-03-27 17:08
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On 2014-03-27 16:47:43, >>SAMEH wrote:
ever wonder what we would see from this beast 20mp Sony sensor if it was handle by iPhone or any other competitor,
well i guess it will push Sony to do alot to keep on par with them
[ This Message was edited by: >>SAMEH on 2014-03-27 15:48 ]



They could probably squeeze a bit more out of the sensor, but not much...it just doesn't seem like a great performer overall.
itsjustJOH
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Posted: 2014-03-27 17:20
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>>SAMEH
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Posted: 2014-03-27 17:36
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They could probably squeeze a bit more out of the sensor, but not much...it just doesn't seem like a great performer overall.


from the sensor side yes.. a bit more only, but for the lens & process algorithm it gonna be a hell of improvement
C905.. who'll be the next?
Shino03
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Posted: 2014-03-28 10:39
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There are shots wherein the z2 camera samples are better than the S5. For example, the street sign picture is definitely better in z2. To be honest, its hard to compare the pictures taken from these 4 phones since they have different resolutions.

Here is an amateur crop.


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miromiromi
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Posted: 2014-03-28 10:53
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@Shino03

but you have to take note of the softening in parts of the xz2 photos. i really hope sony addresses it. they've already dealt with the sharpening artefacts. hopefully, they can do something about the softening. the s5 photos look unrealistic but they retain the most details (in the areas bright enough to show details). overall, i'd say z2 still has more details to show because of the brighter photos.

z2's weakness, apparently, is landscape photo taking. the softening/blurring become very obvious. lg's photos appear impressive considering that they're not bringing anything proprietary (htc ultrapixel, sony g lens, samsung isocell). they are able to retain good amounts of details without the noise although the colors appear to be off.
Shino03
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Posted: 2014-03-28 11:06
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@miromiromi

I agree. In my honest opinion, the LG G PRO 2 beats S5 and Z2 in low-light shots I think in manual mode, S5 and Z2 could be improved.
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randomuser
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Posted: 2014-03-28 11:10
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Z2 vs M8 vs S5 vs G Pro 2 Display comparison









miromiromi
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Posted: 2014-03-28 11:37
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sammy fans argue that the white background in the photo where z2 appears too red is pure white. i'd say it can't possibly be considering that all three lcd displays show that reddish tint. besides, the red dress will likely reflect some redness into the walls unless those walls are sources of light themselves.

still, we can't deny that the z2 here is too red. but we can't also quickly dismiss the possibility that the wall is not really completely white as what the amoled display wants us to believe.

also, i was surprised to realize that amoleds also have off angles. they fade away when viewed from the left. i always thought they are perfect from all sides.
[ This Message was edited by: miromiromi on 2014-03-28 10:40 ]
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