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Caspa
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Posted: 2008-03-14 14:38
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I think we're looking more toward June/July as far as rumours currently go...

The sooner the better as far as i'm concerned... The demo units seemed to be mature so nothing is holding them back...

[ This Message was edited by: Caspa on 2008-03-14 13:46 ]
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Posted: 2008-03-14 15:01
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yeah, my thougts exactly
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Posted: 2008-03-18 17:19
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However I still think that you are overestimating the appeal of HSDPA to business generally - most businesses (not all but most) still only use smartphones for email and light browsing - hell, even remote access or vpn to the office via laptop or pda is still more than doable on normal 3G so HSDPA isn't in my mind an absolute business requirement yet. (I use my K800 as a modem for the laptop - but I rarely miss my office broadband speeds when I'm out and about). Also because I have office based broadband, I can remote into my work pc from my K800/3G connected laptop whenever I want and use my office machine to manage large downloads (using my cable speed of up to 10Mbps).

In Australia, business use of mobile broadband is mostly utilised via usb adapters that support HSDPA, for use in laptops. Using one's phone as a primary source of connection is not really a common business mode. Maybe it's different in Europe, but I suspect it's not that different.


OK Max_Wedge, if you think I'm overestimating the appeal of HSDPA for business then tell me, what type of phone would benefit best from it? Pick from this SE range:

1)Walkman phone (W910)
2)Camera Phone (K850)
3)Entry-level, poorly specced phone
4)Mid-range, neither here nor there phone (K660)
5)Business phone
6)Business Smartphone

Of course, you'd wanna leave out # 6 because it's an absurd idea that HSDPA should be in a smartphone at all by now.

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Posted: 2008-03-19 10:04
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Here are some pics taken by the G900. G900 camera sucks.

http://www.myphone.gr/gallery[....]p/photo/19563/cat/500/ppuser/4
http://www.myphone.gr/gallery[....]p/photo/19564/cat/500/ppuser/4
http://www.myphone.gr/gallery[....]p/photo/19565/cat/500/ppuser/4


Here are the same pics but taken with an N82.

http://www.myphone.gr/gallery[....]p/photo/19566/cat/500/ppuser/4
http://www.myphone.gr/gallery[....]p/photo/19567/cat/500/ppuser/4
http://www.myphone.gr/gallery[....]p/photo/19567/cat/500/ppuser/4
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Posted: 2008-03-19 11:44
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wow - the g900 camera does look shoddy - hopefully that can be tweeked a little. I am supprised that the n82 pics are so poor also.
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Posted: 2008-03-19 11:47
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Bav, are you really comparing photos from a phone that is months away from release, with a phone that is already out?? Are you serious???

Those G900 photos are even worse than what i can make with my P1...clearly the camera software is not finished yet...

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Posted: 2008-03-19 12:39
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I know its only pre release ares but its still worth a look. Mind you how much did the P1s pics improve from pre release to retail? Same goes for K850 imo.
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Posted: 2008-03-19 12:41
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If i remember correctly P1 photos did improve...even after the P1 was released, there has been improvements
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Posted: 2008-03-19 12:49
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@bav.

sorry but i think you've been so pessimistic imo. G900 camera quality only lacks higher pimped contrast, as well as more proper sharpening and noise reduction ratio. all those software processing related issues were fixable with firmware updates. G900 camera even performs better than K850 thanks to the lack of the nasty glass lens. G900 has almost similar lens type as with C902.
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Posted: 2008-03-19 13:18
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G900 camera is ok.But im amazed at quality which samsung u900 produces ,hmm u dont reallly need a digicam if u have u900soul.Just check out the gsmarena sample photos.Its even better than c902.It has very sharp images,colors are excellent and noise levels are brilliant.
SE needs to do some catch up

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Posted: 2008-03-19 13:28
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Hmm seems still cant build decent cameras for their phones, I don't even bother using my P1 as a camera now due to the nasty green cast on the right of the picture.

When I had an N95 the two things it could do reasonable well was take an OK picture but GREAT movies for a phone the camera was fairly good.

I like the look of the G900 as I am a fan on joy sticks and multi directional pads I loved my P990 with the flip up saved loads of time but why a G series? what is the point!

I would really like a Walkman variant of the G900 the music player in my W960 is REALLY GOOD that player in the G900 body would suit me really well plus should put 16Gb M2 in the box to make up for the poop camera!!
I have owned the ... T68i T610, P800, P900, P910, P990, W950, P1, W960 But SE have now totally lost the plot.
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Posted: 2008-03-19 13:32
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On 2008-03-19 13:18:32, XPERIA X5 wrote:
G900 camera is ok.But im amazed at quality which samsung u900 produces ,hmm u dont reallly need a digicam if u have u900soul.Just check out the gsmarena sample photos.Its even better than c902.It has very sharp images,colors are excellent and noise levels are brilliant.
SE needs to do some catch up

[ This Message was edited by: XPERIA X5 on 2008-03-19 12:19 ]


You should see the results you can get from an LG viewty, my mate has one its awasome and could really learn a thing or two from LG on how to build a phone!!!!!!!!
I have owned the ... T68i T610, P800, P900, P910, P990, W950, P1, W960 But SE have now totally lost the plot.
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Posted: 2008-03-19 13:36
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On 2008-02-10 20:37:26, PeterKay wrote:

On 2008-02-10 20:30:38, dr_thug wrote:
Design looks very plain...i guess all SE designers were working on X1.

IS SE no longer interested in having a UIQ smartphone as their flagship device???

Whats the future of P series??


P series is still alive, guys in Bacelona will confirm this.




And what good news can we expect on the P series?
I have owned the ... T68i T610, P800, P900, P910, P990, W950, P1, W960 But SE have now totally lost the plot.
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Posted: 2008-03-19 13:39
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On 2008-03-19 13:32:22, Nitro Fan wrote:

On 2008-03-19 13:18:32, XPERIA X5 wrote:
G900 camera is ok.But im amazed at quality which samsung u900 produces ,hmm u dont reallly need a digicam if u have u900soul.Just check out the gsmarena sample photos.Its even better than c902.It has very sharp images,colors are excellent and noise levels are brilliant.
SE needs to do some catch up

[ This Message was edited by: XPERIA X5 on 2008-03-19 12:19 ]


You should see the results you can get from an LG viewty, my mate has one its awasome and could really learn a thing or two from LG on how to build a phone!!!!!!!!



Viewty is ok but is only just below K850 in terms of placing. The N95 8gb/n95/n82 are widely regarded as the best on the market and the U900 soul apparantly produces better pics than that.
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Posted: 2008-03-19 14:43
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The camera tends to be the last part of a handset that is 'tweaked' so its not suprising it gives a lacklustre performance as a pre release handset... I'm sure a review/preview mentioned that the camera was yet to be polished, maybe GSM Arena?

Bare in mind that the units floating about have been around for at least 3 months (just been informed by out IT Manager that his Mrs has been using the G900 for at least 3 months now, she is PA to one of the top boys in SE London/Hammersmith) and are most likely running the originally firmware rather than a later incarnation of it.

Proof is in the pudding so it will be interesting to see how it performs on release. UIQ3 is no longer in its infancy which should result in a mature version of firmware on release rather than the 'beta' versions released with the original UIQ3 line up!

If SE dont/cant do that then theres no hope! But I am optimistic and positive as we've had every indication that they should finally hit the mark with this one!
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