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coolapostle
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Posted: 2006-01-15 23:22
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@AYA... Maybe CDMA Base stations do not require Generators to operate.

Maybe CDMA equpiment don't get held-up by Customs and taxed by the NCC, FAAN, FGN, State Government, LGA's and Area Boys.

Yeah, it will be "cheaper to run" then....


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Senisho
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Posted: 2006-01-16 00:28
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Sorry 4 interupting, can sum1 tell me where 2 download a mp3 app 4 a nokia 3650?
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Posted: 2006-01-16 04:48
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On 2006-01-15 23:22:25, coolapostle wrote:
@AYA... Maybe CDMA Base stations do not require Generators to operate.

Maybe CDMA equpiment don't get held-up by Customs and taxed by the NCC, FAAN, FGN, State Government, LGA's and Area Boys.

Yeah, it will be "cheaper to run" then....


I assumed we were having an intelligent exchange of information and ideas and dont see where sarcasm fits in

But to help you out, I am sure that you are aware that inspite of the fact that all cars use petrol, get held-up by Customs, and are "taxed" by FRSC, State Governments, LGA's, LASTMA and Area Boys etc, its common fact for example that the average Toyota is cheaper to run than the average competitor's car in the same class. Incidentally, the Toyota may actually cost more to purchase initially. But the card is that its more fuel efficient, more durable etc etc

Hope you get the idea now. The analogy may not be perfect, but hopefully you get the idea.
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Posted: 2006-01-16 05:15
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From my bed in Cape Town, I'm enjoying this discussion/debate between coola and AYA.
Here's my bit, the reason GSM has been successful is due in part to it's flexibility/ mobility. If we had CDMA I doubt we would've seen the growth of the sector on the African continent or on the world stage for that matter. GSM is also much cheaper for network operators due to it's widespread use. For instance up to a few years ago on could not send an sms on a CDMA phone...What would people in the Phillipines think about that?
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Posted: 2006-01-16 07:20
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On 2006-01-16 05:15:00, brix25 wrote:
GSM is also much cheaper for network operators due to it's widespread use.


Which is because GSM showed up (was invented) much earlier than CDMA did. Its simply the advantage of the early mover, not necessarily because it is a preferred choice in terms of technical potentials.

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For instance up to a few years ago on could not send an sms on a CDMA phone...


Well, when GSM first showed up years ago, SMS was not part of the services offered (even though the capacity was there). Same goes for CDMA. Being a new technology, its full capacity was not tapped at the very early stages (but the capacity for VAS like SMS, MMS, and even broadband where there all along).

Inspite of being a much newer technology than GSM, CDMA is spreading rapidly and picking up subscribers in droves.

From all facts on ground, it does seem that if CDMA had shown up around the same time GSM did, GSM wouldn't have such a strong footing as it does today. And even then, time may still change things.Like I said earlier, a number of GSM operators looking to upgrade to a 3G platform are opting for WCDMA. That's saying something.

Food for thought:
When MTN Nigeria for example says it is setting up a 3G network this year, for example, in all probability they are setting up a parallel WCDMA (a CDMA standard) network to the existing GSM infrastructure on ground. That's why migrating to 3G is so expensive for GSM companies: they have to setup an entirely different network from what is on ground.
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Posted: 2006-01-16 08:16
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The only thing blocking the development and implementation of CDMA is Quallcomm which developed the technology...GSM is cheaper because operators don't have to jump through a lot of hoops when trying to establish a network apart from the prevailing licensing conditions.
WCDMA is a variant of CDMA which suprisingly is not widespread in the US- they're only getting their first 3G GSM network this year.
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Posted: 2006-01-16 08:52
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@brix: You are right about that. Again, wireless telephone networks (and mobile phones in particular) were never a big hit in the US. I guess they had the whole country wired up before wireless became big fish
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Posted: 2006-01-16 09:32
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Thought I'd post my first screenshot using some freeware I got off the net.
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Posted: 2006-01-16 13:33
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@coola...still reading.................
Senisho
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Posted: 2006-01-16 22:30
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@AYA, Thanx a lot.
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Posted: 2006-01-17 08:37
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@Aya: I refer to ur analogy on the toyota automobile, clearly it refers to the efficiency of an engine at converting chemical energy to mechanical energy. surely this is not the case with mobile technology. I fail to see how cdma is cheaper to run than gsm.
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Posted: 2006-01-17 10:06
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@amby Exactly! AYA is talking theory.

What is "better" according to the books may not always work in reality. Can you prove that in Naija the call quality of CDMA is better?

Then remember my allusion to the poor financial situation of the CDMA networks. Those networks are still one-man-shows. The star of the lot, Starcomms has...what...200,000 subs? Come on.

Read my lips: Most of those Guys will sell out!

How many CDMA companies bidded for NITEL? That should give you an idea of the kind of networks that will flourish here.

"Cheaper to run": In Naija...CDMA is not cheaper to run...for the reason I already wrote.

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Posted: 2006-01-17 13:26
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On 2006-01-15 22:06:00, AYA wrote:
In which case I must add that CDMA is a cheaper technology to run (with the consequent lower end costs to subscribers) than GSM



The only reason cdma seems to be cheaper in Nigeria, is because the PTO's who have deployed its use here are operating fixed wireless licences, hence their numbering style 01-774, 01-804, 09-570 etc.
Let me remind you that as soon as universal licencing is implemented, Multilinks numbering style for its nationwide mobile phones would probably be 0807.... or some other trunk prefix which means that calls to and from such cdma lines would be classified as trunk, and would subsequently be billed as such.

Also, although UMTS is designed using W-CDMA standard, W-CDMA has very little in common with CDMA which is widely in use here in Nigeria. You may want to confirm this from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W-CDMA.
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Posted: 2006-01-17 13:32
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I think there's a gap in the market for CDMA operators in regards to mobile data applications.

Last year MTN/Qualcomm/Ericsson/Transtel held trials around Joburg to test the viability of CDMA2000 in South Africa.

From all the marketing speak it's seems that CDMA2000 is a better speedwise then say W-CDMA which we've had for well over a year down here.
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coolapostle
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Posted: 2006-01-17 13:49
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@AYA What would you advise the Board of the CDMA companies in Naija as they prepare for Universal Licensing? "Hey Guys, we have nothing to worry about. We have a technological edge???????"

What will you tell them?
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