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randomuser
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Not bashing or anything but its funny how in the past 2 years Samsung and  have almost been opposite of each other.
Galaxy S/S2 best Android flagship unbeaten , ahead of competition. And Xperia X10/Arc worst Android flagship outdated even before they launched. The trend looks to continue into 2012 with Galaxy S3/Nozomi | |
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adsada
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On 2011-11-18 13:48:18, randomuser wrote:
Not bashing or anything but its funny how in the past 2 years Samsung and have almost been opposite of each other.
Galaxy S/S2 best Android flagship unbeaten , ahead of competition. And Xperia X10/Arc worst Android flagship outdated even before they launched. The trend looks to continue into 2012 with Galaxy S3/Nozomi
Not quite true, the Xpeira X10 and Galaxy S has pretty similar specs to each other and actually the X10 had a far better 8MP camera with flash, the S on the other hand only had 5MP. The only issue with the X10 was the low version of android (1.6) but SE have learnt from this mistake and are making up for it massively.
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On 2011-11-18 14:01:43, adsada wrote:
On 2011-11-18 13:48:18, randomuser wrote:
Not bashing or anything but its funny how in the past 2 years Samsung and have almost been opposite of each other.
Galaxy S/S2 best Android flagship unbeaten , ahead of competition. And Xperia X10/Arc worst Android flagship outdated even before they launched. The trend looks to continue into 2012 with Galaxy S3/Nozomi
Not quite true, the Xpeira X10 and Galaxy S has pretty similar specs to each other and actually the X10 had a far better 8MP camera with flash, the S on the other hand only had 5MP. The only issue with the X10 was the low version of android (1.6) but SE have learnt from this mistake and are making up for it massively.
Not really. Galaxy S hummingbird chipset was the best and most powerful single core CPU whereas X10 only had a first gen 1 ghz Qualcomm snapdragon. Galaxy S was the best and most powerful smartphone in 2010 and the X10 was the least desired flagship phone. Outdated OS version, 384mb RAM, 1st gen Snapdragon and a not so impressive screen.
Samsung hummingbird is the only single core CPU that can decode 1080p videos. And now the Exynos continues the legacy being the only dual core chipset currently that can playback 1080p web flash videos in the browser whereas all others including Nvidia Tegra2, Qualcomm 8260/8660, TI OMAP 4430/4460 struggle with even 720p. Even most netbooks cannot play 1080p flash videos.
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On 2011-11-18 15:20:32, randomuser wrote:
On 2011-11-18 14:01:43, adsada wrote:
On 2011-11-18 13:48:18, randomuser wrote:
Not bashing or anything but its funny how in the past 2 years Samsung and have almost been opposite of each other.
Galaxy S/S2 best Android flagship unbeaten , ahead of competition. And Xperia X10/Arc worst Android flagship outdated even before they launched. The trend looks to continue into 2012 with Galaxy S3/Nozomi
Not quite true, the Xpeira X10 and Galaxy S has pretty similar specs to each other and actually the X10 had a far better 8MP camera with flash, the S on the other hand only had 5MP. The only issue with the X10 was the low version of android (1.6) but SE have learnt from this mistake and are making up for it massively.
Not really. Galaxy S hummingbird chipset was the best and most powerful single core CPU whereas X10 only had a first gen 1 ghz Qualcomm snapdragon. Galaxy S was the best and most powerful smartphone in 2010 and the X10 was the least desired flagship phone. Outdated OS version, 384mb RAM, 1st gen Snapdragon and a not so impressive screen.
Samsung hummingbird is the only single core CPU that can decode 1080p videos. And now the Exynos continues the legacy being the only dual core chipset currently that can playback 1080p web flash videos in the browser whereas all others including Nvidia Tegra2, Qualcomm 8260/8660, TI OMAP 4430/4460 struggle with even 720p. Even most netbooks cannot play 1080p flash videos.
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Yes,galaxy S was a much better smartphone than xperia x10,however the reason is that it was developed 6 months after the x10.Let's not forget that xperia x10,had its specs finalized by June 2009,while Galaxy S started its development around Sep-Nov '09.Still the main reason x10 failed was its outdated version of Android,the initial lack of multitouch,and its uninspiring screen.Now,about xperia arc vs galaxy s2,their main difference was on the processor/ram,in a lot of areas it was a draw(camera,screen,connectivity),while in some other areas arc was better(design,ui).Plus,the arc costs around 100-120eur less than the s2.I just hope next year until sony takes over, will use the latest processors available,and will not continue using older processors than competition. |
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On 2011-11-18 17:36:47, nikos_se wrote:
Yes,galaxy S was a much better smartphone than xperia x10,however the reason is that it was developed 6 months after the x10.Let's not forget that xperia x10,had its specs finalized by June 2009,while Galaxy S started its development around Sep-Nov '09.Still the main reason x10 failed was its outdated version of Android,the initial lack of multitouch,and its uninspiring screen.Now,about xperia arc vs galaxy s2,their main difference was on the processor/ram,in a lot of areas it was a draw(camera,screen,connectivity),while in some other areas arc was better(design,ui).Plus,the arc costs around 100-120eur less than the s2.I just hope next year until sony takes over, will use the latest processors available,and will not continue using older processors than competition.
I don't see any change going by the leaks so far  Nozomi is said to have the 8260 Qualcomm and I have lost hope that it will have anything better. Also another reason why I think will not use a more powerful CPU is as someone mentioned in the chinese forums next year as well is going to use one single platform across all its devices - high, mid and low end. All dual core.
Only ROG can tell us the truth 
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I am with randomuser on (the) Nozomi processor, unless they are testing multiple Nozomis with different processors but going by SE's recent history I have my doubts.
I still wish for a decent processor cause I am quite intrigued by that leak, particularly about the potential for the application ofthe LED around the phone.
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What worries me is that sony(ericsson) will be behind once again. While other phone makers are rocking quadcore they will be only releasing dualcore. Some might argue "android not fully utilising all cores" but i think they(sonyericsson) need to keep with the times
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On 2011-11-19 07:53:16, Legen wrote:
What worries me is that sony(ericsson) will be behind once again. While other phone makers are rocking quadcore they will be only releasing dualcore. Some might argue "android not fully utilising all cores" but i think they(sonyericsson) need to keep with the times
[ This Message was edited by: Legen on 2011-11-19 06:54 ]
The other thing to consider is SE's approach to their product line this year; it's fair to assume Sony will continue this year's strategy, considering how, especially on an operational level, successful it was. Sure, none of this years XPERIAs were the most powerful or the most outrageously-spec'd. However, SE has, this year, been the most committed to keeping up with software updates (and they've done a good job of it when you consider a lot of the 2.3.# releases from Google were bug fixes for the Nexus S and therefore are more or less irrelevant for other phones). Their strategy also makes them much stronger in the low-end and highly competitive in the mid-range; these two segments are what sells more. Their flagship is a design one, not a performance one. And this year it's worked out more or less fine. |
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On 2011-11-19 09:55:36, lolstebbo wrote:
On 2011-11-19 07:53:16, Legen wrote:
What worries me is that sony(ericsson) will be behind once again. While other phone makers are rocking quadcore they will be only releasing dualcore. Some might argue "android not fully utilising all cores" but i think they(sonyericsson) need to keep with the times
[ This Message was edited by: Legen on 2011-11-19 06:54 ]
The other thing to consider is SE's approach to their product line this year; it's fair to assume Sony will continue this year's strategy, considering how, especially on an operational level, successful it was. Sure, none of this years XPERIAs were the most powerful or the most outrageously-spec'd. However, SE has, this year, been the most committed to keeping up with software updates (and they've done a good job of it when you consider a lot of the 2.3.# releases from Google were bug fixes for the Nexus S and therefore are more or less irrelevant for other phones). Their strategy also makes them much stronger in the low-end and highly competitive in the mid-range; these two segments are what sells more. Their flagship is a design one, not a performance one. And this year it's worked out more or less fine.
Unfortunately not. 2011 android market share has dropped drastically from 2010 when they only had the X10 and the X10 minis. |
adsada
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To be fair, up until about the start of Q3 of this year the only phones on the market were the Xperia arc, neo and PLAY which was due to the floods in Japan. Last year they also had more low range handsets like the cedar, elm, spiro etc. which also made up a greater amount of there total shipping amount. I would wait until 2011 is over to judge the figures from this year because I would be surprised if a range of well priced handsets (the PLAY and mini pro have drastically dropped in price) in the Q4 results were anything but good.
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It's not flood but Earthquake and followed by Tsunami crushed into some of those Japanese industrial area which included Sony mobile camera & screen factory as well!
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That's what the media calls it though so that has kind of stuck
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On 2011-11-19 14:10:29, adsada wrote:
That's what the media calls it though so that has kind of stuck
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On 2011-11-19 16:43:25, hhlong89 wrote:
On 2011-11-19 14:10:29, adsada wrote:
That's what the media calls it though so that has kind of stuck
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