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masseur
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youtube isn't really the best place to showcase these videos as they compress them quite a bit when you upload
better to find a site for the original video to be viewed
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Indrawan
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yes you are right..the quality is decreased...much...much!! |
joel80
Joined: Nov 30, 2004
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Ringen vid skanstull..
Men den e dyrare där, 6700kr skulle dom ha.. Så väntar man ett par dagar kan man få tag på den för runt 5990kr. PC-city t.ex..
On 2008-10-12 15:47:48, yuppo wrote:
@joel80 what store?
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WhyBe
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On 2008-10-12 15:50:00, Indrawan wrote:
...my friend already has it but he wont tell me about RAM,but he said...
Can you explain further why he wouldn't tell you? Is he a secret agent or something? 
X1 is already smoother than before. X1 need big RAM because 9 panels is active = you run 9 application at one time...'
If this were true then the initally designed X1's would have had 384MB. The 128MB X1's were also fast after a few ROM updates. I don't doubt that there is some benefit to increasing the RAM, but there has to be a point of diminishing returns. If you have, say for example, 50MB of free system RAM and a particular app has a RAM footprint of 10MB, increasing the system RAM won't make that app execute any faster.
tregba wrote:
It would not have been done so with a view to upgrading to WM7 as if it was then an accelerometer would have been included too as WM7 will support hand based gestures.
Supposedly, WM7 will not explicitly require an accelerometer, but can make use of camera based gestures. In the same sense that desktop windows makes no distinction between mouse, trackball, glidepoint (they all have the same end result) perhaps WM7 will have the option of camera gestures and/or accelerometer?
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koto
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I have the night to play, and try to copy everything from my "old" P1i to X1.
Could you please make a short comparation between X1 and P1. So far we got almost nothing from X1 users, just fany posts like: "Oh, its so good, its amazing. I love it, etc." We need some facts, specially P series owners.....  |
djin
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On 2008-10-12 15:46:41, max_wedge wrote:
On 2008-10-12 12:23:32, razec wrote:
On 2008-10-12 11:57:48, djin wrote:
Also , vista basic itself runs ok on 256 mb ram.
sorry but i don't believe this  my friend has a neo pentium D based laptop with 384Mb ram and it runs vista basic like snail. (the moment i installed netbeans 6.1 there the whole laptop ended up miserably slow)
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[ This Message was edited by: razec on 2008-10-12 11:24 ]
it'd runs fine if you disable all graphics gloss and strip it back to Windows 2000 look alike. Disable services such as system restore, indexing, UAC, security centre, antivirus realtime scanner, etc etc. But I agree netbeans would run like a dog no matter what you do. But netbeans takes a bit of grunt. Most average word/internet/email users would get by fine.
Spot on. Thats what my friend does, he works it on his system which has got 256mb ram. Hm.. dont know how well it runs, but he says its ok.
But still i think you guys do get my point, that a whole OS which is over 3gb, needs a minimum requirement of 512mb ram(just checked the min requirements).
So wm7 would be strange to imagine using 512mb ram, in 2009.
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tregba
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tregba wrote:
It would not have been done so with a view to upgrading to WM7 as if it was then an accelerometer would have been included too as WM7 will support hand based gestures.
Supposedly, WM7 will not explicitly require an accelerometer, but can make use of camera based gestures. In the same sense that desktop windows makes no distinction between mouse, trackball, glidepoint (they all have the same end result) perhaps WM7 will have the option of camera gestures and/or accelerometer?
[ This Message was edited by: WhyBe on 2008-10-12 15:48 ]
Yea still not sure about the practicality of using a camera to act as a sensor for gestures, can't imagine having the camera on permanently to detect movement when an accelerometer will achieve the same and better result all while consuming alot less battery power. That being said I am also pretty sure WM7 won't explicitly require a sensor to detect hand gestures, just a feature that can be taken advantage of if the hardware is present. |
koto
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I found this:
http://softratty.com/article/637e29e4a744b061b6ab9937a65378fe
Could some X1/ past P1 user comment about screen difference (viewing pictures, etc.). |
WhyBe
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On 2008-10-12 18:18:14, tregba wrote:
Yea still not sure about the practicality of using a camera to act as a sensor for gestures, can't imagine having the camera on permanently to detect movement when an accelerometer will achieve the same and better result all while consuming alot less battery power. That being said I am also pretty sure WM7 won't explicitly require a sensor to detect hand gestures, just a feature that can be taken advantage of if the hardware is present.
I was looking at some WM software for the X1 on Handango and I noticed a few games that use the camera for gesture recognition (I think it was a golf game and a bowling game). Maybe those will give some idea of how effective a camera-based gesture recognition system would work?
Does the camera by itself consume a lot of power? I think that whenever a camera is in use, the screen and CPU are in a constant cycle of updating live video. That alone seems to be a major contributor to power drainage. So, eliminate the live-video component and how much power is being consumed by the camera itself?
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tregba
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On 2008-10-12 18:34:12, WhyBe wrote:
I was looking at some WM software for the X1 on Handango and I noticed a few games that use the camera for gesture recognition (I think it was a golf game and a bowling game). Maybe those will give some idea of how effective a camera-based gesture recognition system would work?
Does the camera by itself consume a lot of power? I think that whenever a camera is in use, the screen and CPU are in a constant cycle of updating live video. That alone seems to be a major contributor to power drainage. So, eliminate the live-video component and how much power is being consumed by the camera itself?
[ This Message was edited by: WhyBe on 2008-10-12 17:36 ]
Not properly clued up on optics but do know that there has to be some sort of contrast for a camera to accurately sense movement, hence why it wouldn't work in pitch darkness where an accelerometer would. Obviously, the screen wouldn't be refreshing full screen or anything but I would imagine in lower light alot of cpu power would be spent trying to accurately focus and sense contrast changes in relation to movement. |
WhyBe
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Well, I guess that all depends on what the CMOS/CCD sensors are "seeing". Maybe what they see natively is sufficient to detect motion without any additional processing (just guessing)? |
xironghostx
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On 2008-10-12 16:02:37, joel80 wrote:
Ringen vid skanstull..
Men den e dyrare där, 6700kr skulle dom ha.. Så väntar man ett par dagar kan man få tag på den för runt 5990kr. PC-city t.ex..
On 2008-10-12 15:47:48, yuppo wrote:
@joel80 what store?
Brukar det inte bara j*vlas med support, återköp och garanti då man köper från PC-city?
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mortengutt
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Could we PLEASE stop discussing the Ram????? There must be dusins of other more interesting topic concerning the phone then that. |
WhyBe
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On 2008-10-12 19:26:12, mortengutt wrote:
Could we PLEASE stop discussing the Ram????? There must be dusins of other more interesting topic concerning the phone then that.
Have you read this page your post is on? That and the hundreds of pages in this thread may contain something of interest for you  |
Jabe
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Can you watch a 350mb or a 700mb divx (xvid) without converting and/or freezing.
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