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Muhammad-Oli
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Damn right! I can't believe they still list the K800i as a current phone! And the future isn't so great looking either. We aren't going to see several phones that have been announced recently. I'm not saying they should release every single one here... That would be ridiculous. I'm saying release some good ones! Out of all the phones coming 'soon', only the W980, X1 and C902 are truly interesting. The C702 is a rehashed K800i/K770i, the G502 and Z780i while good looking are technically V640is in new clothing. And then the T303 and W350i are pretty plain and featureless.
I'd like to see the W890i, W960i (what happened to that!), W580i, T650i, and most of all for me, the G900. And not in a years time either! I want to see good phones out here when they are released in Europe! 
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Muhammad-Oli
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Oh and BTW, various phones are now available from parallel importers now. Most notably the Z770i available at Expert Infotech for $421.50 and at Etown for $500.
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carkitter
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On 2008-05-26 05:38:29, Muhammad-Oli wrote:
...The C702 is a rehashed K800i/K770i, the G502 and Z780i while good looking are technically V640is in new clothing. And then the T303 and W350i are pretty plain and featureless.
Ouch! Harsh... 
C702 - A better looking K800i/K770i with A200 would be a delicious prospect IMO.
The nice looking G502 and Z780 internet phones will fall flat on thier faces unless Vodafone makes Data cheaper and more accessable as could happen when the iPhone comes out - here's hoping. Neither has a very big screen for Web browsing but competitive pricing along the lines of the V640i would make up for that and attract iPhone wannabe owners on a budget.
Dunno how the T303 fits in... but I love the Ericsson-esque W350 phone with flip, maybe a W200 replacement?
Edit: BTW, I picked up K770i, W910i, and K850i brochures from the mall this morning - complete with sonyericsson dot com dot au address on the back. I can't believe they're marketing the hideous K770i as a stylish phone for party girls, when they could've had a truly stylish phone - the T650 instead. 
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Muhammad-Oli
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Yeah alright I'll admit I was a bit harsh on the C702. But I'm going to let my comments on the rest of the range stand. I just don't see them being well accepted here, and I don't think they bring anything new to the market really. You're right about data, Vodafone needs a serious rethink about their pricing to get the data-centric phones to sell.
I think the T650i would have sold like hot-cakes here. Its such a great looking phone, and elsewhere it was really cheap, so should have been cheap here too. I have NEVER seen a K770i outside a shop!
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a few people at uni have the K770. But yes, the T650 would be popular indeed. |
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Hahaha! Congratulations!
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Muhammad-Oli
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Hahaha!  Still we've got a lot of work to do to catch up to the UK users, etc.
@K71: I have just added you to our New Zealanders list on the first page of the thread. Obviously you're sticking around for a bit, so you're in! Congratulations.
Also, humphreybc, RevoWution and Gigs haven't posted in months. I'm just wondering what you guys think is a good time to remove them. Like 3 months? 6 months?
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K71
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why thank you!!!however i must remind you that i have been lurking around this site since before the k800 was announced, its just that i don't have too much to say really.except that both t.com and v.fone are quite annoying.i'll stick with v.fone for a while longer anyway.what needs to happen i think is that Sony stores should start selling a good range of SE phones, however i guess you have the possibility that if v.fone don't carry it, it may not work.damn v.fone branding!!why can't they just start selling unbranded handsets!!wankers......
its also annoying that your post numbers seem to reduce after a certain period of time!!i'm not sure if i'll ever actually get into double figures!!
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carkitter
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On 2008-05-26 11:22:06, Muhammad-Oli wrote:
Also, humphreybc, RevoWution and Gigs haven't posted in months. I'm just wondering what you guys think is a good time to remove them. Like 3 months? 6 months?
Six months isn't enough IMO, but 12 months certainly is.
On 2008-05-26 11:22:06, Muhammad-Oli wrote:
@K71: I have just added you to our New Zealanders list on the first page of the thread. Obviously you're sticking around for a bit, so you're in! Congratulations.
Welcome to the fold. We'll have to teach you the secret handshake...
Not all areas of the forum count towards your post tally; if you spend alot of time in the Non-mobile section for instance, the additional post score keeps getting removed.
Branding is Vodafone corporate policy, they'll never stop.
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Muhammad-Oli
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On 2008-05-26 16:30:30, carkitter wrote:
On 2008-05-26 11:22:06, Muhammad-Oli wrote:
Also, humphreybc, RevoWution and Gigs haven't posted in months. I'm just wondering what you guys think is a good time to remove them. Like 3 months? 6 months?
Six months isn't enough IMO, but 12 months certainly is.
Branding is Vodafone corporate policy, they'll never stop.
Ok, we'll come back to it in a few months. Maybe we'll have it at about 9. It doesn't exactly matter though, its nothing important!
And yes, branding may be a policy, but Vodafone is Apple's bitch. In order to sell the iPhone, Vodafone will have to do exactly as Apple says, and they better do it right. I know Apple won't like horrible Vodafone branding all over their beautiful phone, so they won't allow it. At most, I think there will be a small Vodafone logo on the phone's casing and a single Vodafone menu icon - probably linking to Vodafone live. That will be all...
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On 2008-05-26 16:56:48, Muhammad-Oli wrote:
...but Vodafone is Apple's bitch...
That'll be a first.
I think it was 2002 that Vodafone lost GBP40bn caused by purchasing 3G spectrum all over Europe and despite that they're still in business.  They're pretty powerful and they'll give as good as they get I'm sure. However if anyone can crack the Vodafone franchise model and start selling official unbranded phones, it's Apple IMO.
It's interesting that Vodafone ditches SE's Play Now link yet I can't see an iPhone landing here without a iTunes icon. It even needs to visit iTunes to become 'activated' before you can use it; if I were at SE NZ I'd be getting pretty pissed off with the liberties Vodafone NZ has been taking over the years.
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@K71: The G700 is now available at Plemix.com, so I'd expect the G900 any day now. The G700 is $572 which I think is pretty cheap for a new release! I think the G900 will be around $650-$700.
@carkitter: Yeah but Vodafone have to keep iTunes for the iPhone because, A: People expect it and it is a main feature, and B: They wouldn't be allowed to sell it by Apple if they were going to get rid of it. And of course, Vodafone can't afford to lose an iPhone deal. If Telecom got the deal in New Zealand instead of Vodafone, Vodafone would be screwed. So they have to comply with Apple's rules.
Contrast this to SE and their PlayNow links, and its pretty obvious why Vodafone can get away with it. SE has a falling reputation and are slowly losing their grasp on the market. It is the opposite really, where SE will probably do anything to get Vodafone to sell their handset, so will allow Vodafone to brand all they want. Also, customers have no idea what PlayNow is, so don't know what they're missing!
Apple have it pretty good. They've created a product so popular, they can pretty much say anything they want and networks will snap it up!
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K71
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ah i see..........let kev (the "K" in K71) spend all his hard earned money to buy and experiment with a G900 on the VFNZ network to see if it will actually work!!........................nah bro it's all good!!!!just kidding!!!seriously!!!.......................if i do get it, it won't be for a few weeks anyway.i want to see a few user reviews/photo's first to see if there are any issues that come up.either that or Paris/Shihohoho announcement/spec sheets/etc. that show it'll be worth holding off for a better phone.if ya know wot i mean innit.
anyone here had long term attachments to touchscreen devices?i'm wondering how robust it'll be.i do actually treat my phones quite well (my 20 month old k800 still looks new from a metre away) but it does worry me a little bit how it'll last.
also what are symbian phones like?any particular quirks?i haven't used one of them before.
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Muhammad-Oli
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On 2008-05-28 14:19:42, K71 wrote:
ah i see..........let kev (the "K" in K71) spend all his hard earned money to buy and experiment with a G900 on the VFNZ network to see if it will actually work!!
Haha yeah, that's the one! Nah I just knew you were interested in one, and am interested in one myself! I dont think I will be able to afford a new phone so soon, so it will be cool to hear how yours turns out!
Umm yeah, UIQ phones have their quirks. I haven't had one before and haven't even been on one before, but I know a few things like all the models released so far up to the P1i haven't been able to display animated images for wallpapers, and the alarm doesn't sound if the phone is turned off, etc. However I don't know if these issues, if you can call them that, have been fixed with the newer models. I'd ask about it in the G900 thread or something!
I think the G900 will be as robust as any other phone really. It definitely looks like a solid phone and I don't think the screen will be a problem. Just keep being as careful as you are with your K800i, and you should have it sweet!
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