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getagrip15
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Posted: 2006-04-20 20:16
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I keep goin back and forth trying decide between the W810i and the K790a. If a new fw comes out and fixes the problems with the W810i(dropped calls) then I'm really gonna have a hard time. I love the looks and size of the w810i, but I'm really interested in the K790's high res screen and 3.2 mp camera. Another factor is that I can get a W810 for around $400 now, but I have no clue what the K790's gonna cost or when it will be available. Well, actually, to get a decent price I'd have to wait about a month after it's available. Other factors are: I prefer the d-pad to the joystick, not realy big on the orange highlights of W810, UI on K790 has alot of useful upgrades, cheap 2-4 gb memory stick duo is better that 512mb-1gb M2, not sure if k790 comes with memory card or stereo in-ear headphones. If I knew what the retail price was gonna be for the K790 then I might could settle this.
Xugaa
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Posted: 2006-04-20 20:18
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3... WTF!
bavlondon2
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Posted: 2006-04-20 20:42
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Knock em as much as you want but they have the most coverage for 3g in uk and have the cheapest tarrifs for xnet and video mins. The only gripe with themk is that they have a shitty CS center in India and they dont offer full web browsing.
SL33PYH34D
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Posted: 2006-04-21 02:04
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On 2006-04-20 20:42:07, bavlondon2 wrote:
Knock em as much as you want but they have the most coverage for 3g in uk and have the cheapest tarrifs for xnet and video mins. The only gripe with themk is that they have a shitty CS center in India and they dont offer full web browsing.


Actually they have offered full web browsing for a couple of months, although it will cost an additional Ј15 for "Wireless Web 56" which gives you 56MB of full data.
bavlondon2
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Posted: 2006-04-21 09:47
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On 2006-04-20 20:42:07, bavlondon2 wrote:
Knock em as much as you want but they have the most coverage for 3g in uk and have the cheapest tarrifs for xnet and video mins. The only gripe with themk is that they have a shitty CS center in India and they dont offer full web browsing.


Actually they have offered full web browsing for a couple of months, although it will cost an additional Ј15 for "Wireless Web 56" which gives you 56MB of full data.




Too little too late. Which is where they have messed up and concequently announced huge loses. Id expect one of the other networks to buy 3's licence before the end of 2008
jasond
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Posted: 2006-04-21 10:12
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Would someone kindly be able to outline for me the K800’s ability (or lack thereof) of A2DP (stereo audio streaming over Bluetooth)?

jmcomms has previously stated yes, and this website (found through Esato), also gives the thumbs up, however the specifications at the start of this thread don’t, nor the official SE K800i website aren’t clear on this.

Asssuming the phone could support such a profile, once set up - would it just be a matter or pressing the phone’s play button (or in the media player), and the audio automatically being streamed to the receiving device?

Additionally, would A2DP rule out the need for portable hands free products (such as BlueAnt’s Supertooth hands free)?
So that when listening to music through a Bluetooth-enabled car stereo, or just driving with Bluetooth turned on, the phone would automatically channel the audio to the car stereo system?

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baste07
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Posted: 2006-04-21 11:49
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what phone do you have right now? if you have the k750 or w800 just wait for the k790i. but if you have lower end phones. i might consider the w810. i like the way it looks better than k790. although screen and camera is better on the k790. but again like what you said... nobody knows when it will come out and how much
etaab
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Posted: 2006-04-21 13:35
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@ rockygali - if only it were that simple. Whats the point in releasing a new handset and then giving it old features ? sure, video recording quality may not be the most important feature, but to not update it when all its competitors are updating is a stupid decision.

Imagine if suddenly SE decided not to give the K800i mp3 playback, or removed the T9 dictionary, people would go crazy. The video recording is IMO a very important feature for a phone branded with the Cybershot name, so by not updating it in line with the static camera quality, they're literally shooting themselves in the foot.
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kristianm
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Posted: 2006-04-21 13:42
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SE already has a phone with good video recording: W900.

I guess SE's plan is to release a newer phone than K800, one with a 3.2MP camera too and W900-like video recording capabilities a few months after K800's release.

That's what they did with W900. They released it with a similar 2MP cam like K750/W800 but improved video recording.
K790
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Posted: 2006-04-21 13:51
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Does anyone know why K790 has been removed from the www.sonyericsson.co.uk

Does it mean it is withdrawn or gonna be released later than expected.
masseur
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Posted: 2006-04-21 13:54
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there's a separate discussion started up for that if you are interested

uk not getting k790?
etaab
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Posted: 2006-04-21 13:55
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@ kristianm - i think the reason the W900i had better video, was simply because it had the QVGA screen and software to utilise it, and possibly the slightly faster hardware.

The K750i and phones of the same screen resolution simply cannot playback higher video resolutions, which is why they probably cannot capture them.

@ K790 - probably because the K790i and K800i are so closely related, the K790i simply isnt necessary in the UK market because the K800i has everything it has, and more. The K790i is simply a K800i for countries that dont have 3G, but do have EDGE.
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K790
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Posted: 2006-04-21 13:57
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Thanks Masseur.
bavlondon2
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Posted: 2006-04-21 14:12
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On 2006-04-21 13:55:07, etaab wrote:
@ kristianm - i think the reason the W900i had better video, was simply because it had the QVGA screen and software to utilise it, and possibly the slightly faster hardware.

The K750i and phones of the same screen resolution simply cannot playback higher video resolutions, which is why they probably cannot capture them.

@ K790 - probably because the K790i and K800i are so closely related, the K790i simply isnt necessary in the UK market because the K800i has everything it has, and more. The K790i is simply a K800i for countries that dont have 3G, but do have EDGE.





I see now you beleive me when i was talking about the accelerator card in the w900.

In regards to the video on the k800, until we have seen an actual filmed clip i dont think we can really kick up a fuss. Im surprised though even eldar didnt put any video clips in her 5 part review of the phone on mobile review.
bavlondon2
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Posted: 2006-04-21 15:11
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check this russian reviw out on the k800. Now you can all officially slag of the k800's video as much as you want although it is improved from the w810 but a whopping 5 frames per second.

http://www.ferra.ru/online/phones/26378/

Теперь видео. Тут максимум для съёмки составляет 176 х 144 пикселей. Формат – MPEG4 (15 fps). Можно настроить рекордер по аналогичным фотокамере параметрам. Качество для столь продвинутого продукта невысоко:

The words mpeg4 and 15fps are clear there so you can guess what it translates to.

And translated online gives this:

Here the maximum for shooting makes 176 х 144 pixels. A format - MPEG4 (15 fps). It is possible to adjust рекордер on parameters similar to a camera





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