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razec
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Posted: 2013-02-28 14:11
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On 2013-02-28 06:47:06, Xajel wrote:

Ubuntu is a high-end system, in bar with Android and even higher also, having Ubuntu will mean having two high-end systems to work with, so this will mean splitting resources for two OS's and this is hard for Sony Mobile...



True, what's good about Ubuntu touch is because, as stated by Mark Shutterworth it pushes silicon manufacturers to further improve the performance per watt of their chips, on the other hand the performance competition in Android can be considered silly since few apps could even stress the dual core chips to the point that you'll complain that it lags alot and games become painfully unplayable at all. besides Ubuntu Touch supports Full OpenGL, and not just the the relatively scaled down OpenGL ES. which means developers can push desktop grade gaming graphics as long as the hardware could deliver. now who among those who got Android device for the sole reason of getting the best hardware (much like a PC enthusiast) wouldn't want to run apps and games that renders high end shaders on their phone?

also with all due respect to XperiaCute, pardon me for this offtopic (and rather late) reply but for objectivity's sake I was compelled to correct you as you're clearly misinformed with the technology behind QML, it is NOT OpenGL, I don't even have a slight idea about what you're talking there mate, also why would you say OpenGL is crap when native games that run on both iOS and android were written in OpenGL ES? besides, OpenGL extends way beyond gaming and some modern applications are now actually harnessing the GPU resources to accelerate applications and to offload floating-point computing tasks (graphics, animations, video rendering, WebGL and etc) from the CPU which improves battery life. how was that possible? simple, because of OpenGL and its counterparts(Direct3D and etc)

here read this,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QML

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JoJotaro
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Posted: 2013-02-28 15:39
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On 2013-02-28 14:11:08, razec wrote:

On 2013-02-28 06:47:06, Xajel wrote:

Ubuntu is a high-end system, in bar with Android and even higher also, having Ubuntu will mean having two high-end systems to work with, so this will mean splitting resources for two OS's and this is hard for Sony Mobile...



True, what's good about Ubuntu touch is because, as stated by Mark Shutterworth it pushes silicon manufacturers to further improve the performance per watt of their chips, on the other hand the performance competition in Android can be considered silly since few apps could even stress the dual core chips to the point that you'll complain that it lags alot and games become painfully unplayable at all. besides Ubuntu Touch supports Full OpenGL, and not just the the relatively scaled down OpenGL ES. which means developers can push desktop grade gaming graphics as long as the hardware could deliver. now who among those who got Android device for the sole reason of getting the best hardware (much like a PC enthusiast) wouldn't want to run apps and games that renders high end shaders on their phone?

also with all due respect to XperiaCute, pardon me for this offtopic (and rather late) reply but for objectivity's sake I was compelled to correct you as you're clearly misinformed with the technology behind QML, it is NOT OpenGL, I don't even have a slight idea about what you're talking there mate, also why would you say OpenGL is crap when native games that run on both iOS and android were written in OpenGL ES? besides, OpenGL extends way beyond gaming and some modern applications are now actually harnessing the GPU resources to accelerate applications and to offload floating-point computing tasks (graphics, animations, video rendering, WebGL and etc) from the CPU which improves battery life. how was that possible? simple, because of OpenGL and its counterparts(Direct3D and etc)

here read this,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QML




Hardware just doesn't evolve that fast. Android/WP8 and iOS were written with low processing power and batter life in mind, and look at how they struggle with some applications and how fast you need to recharge them. Do you think an OS that can run desktop applications on a smartphone can do so without any problems any time soon? I don't think so.
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Posted: 2013-02-28 16:34
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Sony: Xperia Z display "unbeaten"
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2[....]nbeaten-in-sonymwc-booth-test/

Speaking about Xperia Z's display, that day, I went to compare the screen quality between Xperia Z and my Xperia Ion and unfortunately (or fortunately) me and my friend agree that Ion seems to have a deeper black and Xperia Z's screen have a grey cast to it.
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Posted: 2013-02-28 21:01
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On 2013-02-28 16:34:13, unknownC151A wrote:
Sony: Xperia Z display "unbeaten"
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2[....]nbeaten-in-sonymwc-booth-test/

Speaking about Xperia Z's display, that day, I went to compare the screen quality between Xperia Z and my Xperia Ion and unfortunately (or fortunately) me and my friend agree that Ion seems to have a deeper black and Xperia Z's screen have a grey cast to it.


one of my friends has got Xperia Z and did a quick comparison between Xperia Z and TX ..~


[ This Message was edited by: XperiaCute on 2013-02-28 20:05 ]
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Posted: 2013-02-28 21:25
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On 2013-02-28 03:47:54, randomuser wrote:
Felimenta, no matter what product you buy - Xperia Z, ZL, Tablet Z you will get S600 provided you buy it after May.


Oh, OK. Thanks. That's great news. Price won't go up, I suppose?
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Posted: 2013-02-28 21:30
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It is rumored that the new Snapdragons have been tested for optimal performance with Android Key Lime Pie...
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Posted: 2013-02-28 21:52
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On 2013-02-28 21:30:30, JoJotaro wrote:
It is rumored that the new Snapdragons have been tested for optimal performance with Android Key Lime Pie...


For sure .. Google is going to release Nexus 5 & Second Generation of Nexus 7 this May ..

and both will be equipped with either Snapdragons 600 or 800 & Android 5.0 Key Lime Pie...
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Posted: 2013-02-28 22:00
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From the Z-thread:


Like us, an employee of Qualcomm has confirmed the MWC booth in Barcelona, ​​it is the supposedly new Snapdragon 600 only, and a kind of remake of the older Snapdragon S4 Pro with four cores - Technically, the old S4 Pro (model without wireless APQ8064 modules or model MSM8960 with GSM-/3G-/4G-Modul) and the current Snapdragon 600 (APQ8064T) completely identical, since they have at least the same core, same graphics unit and the exact same memory. The memory interface and other features are the same. The only slight difference is that the Snapdragon 600 through its finer production gets a slightly higher maximum clock: instead of the S4 Pro 1700 MHz, there are up to 1900 MHz. Qualcomm will also in future be both externally and internally no longer the names as S4.


http://translate.google.ch/tr[....]spricht-snapdragon-s4-pro.html

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Posted: 2013-02-28 22:09
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@ Detox

Thanks for the link. I said the same thing a few weeks ago and everybody disagreed. The S600 is just an over-clocked APQ8064. The S600 at 1.5 GHz should have the same performance as the APQ8064.
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Posted: 2013-02-28 23:03
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If they really are the same Sony should rebrand them s600 because everyone (including me) thinks that is better
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Posted: 2013-02-28 23:34
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On 2013-02-28 22:09:09, DACHA wrote:
@ Detox

Thanks for the link. I said the same thing a few weeks ago and everybody disagreed. The S600 is just an over-clocked APQ8064. The S600 at 1.5 GHz should have the same performance as the APQ8064.


You were wrong then and you are wrong now. There are benchmarks of an overclocked 1,7 GHz HTC DNA on XDA and it still loses by a fair amount to the HTC One

Just because a Qualcomm employee says it doesnt make it true. There is a youtube video of a Samsung employee claiming Exynos Octa draws 70% less power than Exynos Quad (when in reality its actually Exynos 4210 in Galaxy S2)

You have to understand at shows like MWC, there are a bunch of marketing guys going around that are clueless about the technical part of the products
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Posted: 2013-02-28 23:36
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On 2013-02-28 21:01:51, XperiaCute wrote:

On 2013-02-28 16:34:13, unknownC151A wrote:
Sony: Xperia Z display "unbeaten"
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2[....]nbeaten-in-sonymwc-booth-test/

Speaking about Xperia Z's display, that day, I went to compare the screen quality between Xperia Z and my Xperia Ion and unfortunately (or fortunately) me and my friend agree that Ion seems to have a deeper black and Xperia Z's screen have a grey cast to it.


one of my friends has got Xperia Z and did a quick comparison between Xperia Z and TX ..~


[ This Message was edited by: XperiaCute on 2013-02-28 20:05 ]



I don't know but this article seems to agree that Xperia Z have a lower screen contrast. Hope Sony improves on it.
http://www.xperiablog.net/201[....]against-xperia-t-and-xperia-v/
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^^ I really Trust both the opinion and picture was posted by my friend here : http://www.adslgate.com/dsl/showthread.php?t=1500796

over this article in xperiablog ... BTW here is a quote from bkh about this comparison :

"They saved some screenshots on the T and Z just after 8.00 am. Then they edited those screenshots (increased the brightness) to make them look washed out. Then, they reloaded those modified screenshots on the devices just after 12.00 noon and took a photo of them next to a V, which actually is displaying its homescreen.

Interestingly, notice the T and Z are not displaying the five little circles that indicate which screen you are on."

http://store2.up-00.com/Nov12/jLJ84762.png
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Posted: 2013-03-01 00:52
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^^ Wow! You have really good eyes! Hope your analysis will clear up the misconception many people have about Xperia Z's screen.
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Aptina and Sony cross-license their camera patents



Aptina's newly signed patent cross-licensing agreement with Sony as an example: the pact lets the two imaging veterans use each other's know-how in camera sensors for everything from dedicated cameras through to smartphones and TVs.
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