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Sony Ericsson Launches P1 qwerty Smartphone |
ares
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ok, i was wrong then 
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makbil
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Both of what @Boinng and @ares say makes sense, except that we should be talking about the core OS not the cosmetics. The today screen etc. are just cosmetic enhancements. True, the P1 does not need the flip closed modules but honestly I have a hard time believing that all the problems associated with the P990 are caused by the FC modules. If that were the case, then we should all be able to use the P990 without the flip and we should have no problems with it
What @Lisa said may also give a clue as to why the P1 fw will/may not be ported over to the P990, because of flip and memory requirements.
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On 2007-06-29 11:01:27, Lisa@CPS wrote:
Unfortunately it gives an error and can not play it.
Hmm. That's a pity. The P1i White Paper and device specs claim H264 compatibility, unlike the P990/M600. Seems like it's not there in the P1i yet.
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Shall we ask about it on the SE partner support?
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makbil
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On 2007-06-29 15:54:05, malbry wrote:
Hmm. That's a pity. The P1i White Paper and device specs claim H264 compatibility, unlike the P990/M600. Seems like it's not there in the P1i yet.
Hmmm...I hope the P1 is not going the way of the P990 already
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Shall we ask about it on the SE partner support?
Is that a service for selected SE partners, and separate from general SE dev forum? In any event, yes please Lisa. Thanks.
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Is that a service for selected SE partners, and separate from general SE dev forum? Yes.
In any event, yes please Lisa. On Monday. They need a rest after all that terror
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Coming soon end of July here....
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Are there any other updates regarding the release date of the P1?
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On 2007-06-29 03:15:42, makbil wrote:
I want to add a few comments to the above posts. All of you havevalid points regarding the P1. Certainly, as far as memory is concerned, it will not be burdened with the same problems as the P990. But remember that the currently underlying software & firmware is the same as the P990. So, although you may be able to run a few more programs at the same time, the serious (intermittent as they may be) bugs such as restarts while answering a call still remain. If they are fixed for the P1 the fw could just have been made available for the P990 and a lot of anger may have been avoided. SE is wrong in its assumption that the memory is the only problem with the P990. IMO, with SE's level of programming and QC, I don't believe that the P1 will be too different than the P990. Yes, perhaps no restarts to improve performance but what about the other bugs?
Lisa@CPS has suggested that most of the bugs in the latest fw for P990 are probably due to SE's incompetent tweaking of additional SE software and not due to Symbian or UIQ3.
Naturally anyone has the choice to buy the P1 but wouldn't it leave a bitter taste if SE abandoned that after 6 months too? Just a thought to ponder over. As for me, if I ever decide to get another SE phone, I will definitely wait for Symbian 9.5 and at least 6 months after launch to see how things go.
Yes, unfortunately to date there is no product on the market that matches the P990 as far as hardware features are concerned - eg. touch screen and flip.
Than u can easily sit down and wait ~1-2years ^^
The first models 9.5 will have even more bugs cause they are first.. So u will ahve to wait another 2 years for improving.. Or maybe Symbian 9.7? Dude, there is no perfect phone without bugs.. And why the hell u are sure in p1 will ahve all the same probs, or similar as in p990? Or u are the next blind Nokia fan here??
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On Monday. They need a rest after all that terror.
Well, the terror was about the P990 and not the P1i. Thanks Lisa.
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makbil
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On 2007-06-30 08:09:54, PcMan wrote:
Than u can easily sit down and wait ~1-2years ^^
The first models 9.5 will have even more bugs cause they are first.. So u will ahve to wait another 2 years for improving.. Or maybe Symbian 9.7? Dude, there is no perfect phone without bugs.. And why the hell u are sure in p1 will ahve all the same probs, or similar as in p990? Or u are the next blind Nokia fan here??
I haven't used a Nokia since the 8210 and Nokia is not an option for me even if I get rid of the P990. However, there are things I don't like about the P1 so it is not an alternative for me either. Yes, I will probably wait for at least a year, I think the P990 replacement will have Symbian 9.5. Until then I can live with P990 as I don't have the extreme problems some report. If SE announced that they would upgrade the P1 to Symbian 9.5, that may be a different story though. Those getting the P1, have fun with your new toy, I will pass this one.
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Can't wait for the P1i. For the P990i owners, I'd reco waiting, and skipping this gen of smartphone. That's what I usually do. I went with the P800...skipped the P900...got the P910i... skipped the P990i. Incremental improvements aren't really worth the upgrade IMO, if you already have the P990i.
To be honest, I'm a bit disappointed that the P1i doesn't have HSDPA. But since my P910i has lasted me this long... it's due for an upgrade.
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I live in a country that has plenty of HSDPA coverage, but no one uses it on their phone. This is the main issue I think people forget. It takes a lot of processing power to deal with that much incoming data (oh, and the speeds that are always quoted are theoretical maximums not practical speeds). In fact, both cell providers are marketing HSDPA as a SOHO Internet service, not one to be used on the phones. In fact, if you go and ask them to activate it (assuming you have a compatible phone) they will warn you that you may not get the speeds advertised, and they will provide no support for that.
I have also heard from reliable sources that having a phone on 3G data takes a lot out of the battery; upon talking with a cellphone engineer, he told me that 3G data signals have a shorter range from the tower, so a phone (or any other 3G radio) has to continuously hunt for the right signal when on data, draining the battery faster.
I really do not get the idea behind not including EDGE in the P1 (it is targeted as a communications device). It was the same with the M600 -- although the addition of a camera and WiFi takes care of the two biggest gripes I had with it.
Then people complain that the WiFi is not "g". I think that I would rather have a phone that lasts a day, than one that connects to everything, but the battery can't go 12 hours before it dies out.
Again, what use is "g" on a mobile phone targeted for text messaging? How fast do you really want to get your emails 
Ah yes, the beauty of choice For me, the keyboard is really what pulls me to this device, and I will surely keep an eye out for it, especially if it lands in August (it would make for a nice birthday gift).
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reason for wifi-g is not speed but for better compatibility and less power consumption. Many hotspots nowadays disable the support of wifi-b because it deteriotes overall throughput. | |
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Posted: 2007-06-29 13:06
So I lowered my expectations and settled for a P1i. I couldn't keep my expectations so low for a long time so now I have an HTC Touch HD 
