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The Danish Mohammad cartoon row - what do you think? |
whizkidd
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Have we reached some common ground here yet people? 
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axxxr
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I sincierly hope we have....lets wait and see shall we? 
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GreenKronic
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I agree.........Thanks Whiz
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axxxr
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Thats so beautiful green ive got a tear in my eye..almost!
time for a singlalong! 
There’s a place in
Your heart
And I know that it is love
And this place could
Be much
Brighter than tomorrow
And if you really try
You’ll find there’s no need
To cry
In this place you’ll feel
There’s no hurt or sorrow
There are ways
To get there
If you care enough
For the living
Make a little space
Make a better place...
Heal the world
Make it a better place
For you and for me
And the entire human race
There are people dying
If you care enough
For the living
Make a better place
For you and for me
If you want to know why
There’s a love that
Cannot lie
Love is strong
It only cares for
Joyful giving
If we try
We shall see
In this bliss
We cannot feel
Fear or dread
We stop existing and
Start living
Then it feels that always
Love’s enough for
Us growing
So make a better world
Make a better world...
Heal the world
Make it a better place
For you and for me
And the entire human race
There are people dying
If you care enough
For the living
Make a better place
For you and for me
And the dream we were
Conceived in
Will reveal a joyful face
And the world we
Once believed in
Will shine again in grace
Then why do we keep
Strangling life
Wound this earth
Crucify it’s soul
Though it’s plain to see
This world is heavenly
Be god’s glow
We could fly so high
Let our spirits never die
In my heart
I feel you are all
My brothers
Create a world with
No fear
Together we cry
Happy tears
See the nations turn
Their swords
Into plowshares
We could really get there
If you cared enough
For the living
Make a little space
To make a better place...
Heal the world
Make it a better place
For you and for me
And the entire human race
There are people dying
If you care enough
For the living
Make a better place
For you and for me
Heal the world
Make it a better place
For you and for me
And the entire human race
There are people dying
If you care enough
For the living
Make a better place
For you and for me
Heal the world
Make it a better place
For you and for me
And the entire human race
There are people dying
If you care enough
For the living
Make a better place
For you and for me
There are people dying
If you care enough
For the living
Make a better place
For you and for me
There are people dying
If you care enough
For the living
Make a better place
For you and for me
You and for me
You and for me
You and for me
You and for me
You and for me
You and for me
You and for me
You and for me
You and for me
You and for me
You and for me
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GreenKronic
Joined: Oct 08, 2005
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From: Tampa,Fl
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@Axxxr I almost got thru that Poem but lost track on the third verse
We could go with the Micheal Jackson-
There comes a time
When we head a certain call
When the world must come together as one
There are people dying
And it's time to lend a hand to life
The greatest gift of all
We can't go on
Pretneding day by day
That someone, somewhere will soon make a change
We are all a part of
God's great big family
And the truth, you know love is all we need
[Chorus]
We are the world
We are the children
We are the ones who make a brighter day
So let's start giving
There's a choice we're making
We're saving our own lives
It's true we'll make a better day
Just you and me
Send them your heart
So they'll know that someone cares
And their lives will be stronger and free
As God has shown us by turning stone to bread
So we all must lend a helping hand
[Chorus]
We are the world
We are the children
We are the ones who make a brighter day
So let's start giving
There's a choice we're making
We're saving our own lives
It's true we'll make a better day
Just you and me
When you're down and out
There seems no hope at all
But if you just believe
There's no way we can fall
Well, well, well, well, let us realize
That a change will only come
When we stand together as one
[Chorus]
We are the world
We are the children
We are the ones who make a brighter day
So let's start giving
There's a choice we're making
We're saving our own lives
It's true we'll make a better day
Just you and me
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whizkidd
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Awwww........ We're such a great community here.... 
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absinthebri
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On 2006-02-10 00:43:00, whizkidd wrote:
Have we reached some common ground here yet people?
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What are we disagreeing on? You either find it acceptable to threaten to kill someone for expressing a point of view or you don't.
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axxxr
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Oh here we go again....and it was going so well!
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absinthebri
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On 2006-02-10 06:45:02, axxxr wrote:
Oh here we go again....and it was going so well!
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You either find it acceptable to threaten to kill someone for expressing a point of view or you don't.
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axxxr
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read out the lyrics to the song i wrote above...thats should give you the answer.
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leeboy13
Joined: Sep 28, 2005
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personally - ive learnt a lot through this thread and i can now see why muslins are so affended (to me its only a cartoon, but its not my faith being mocked)... so i totally understand why the protests have gone on etc...
The only one thing i will say - violence is never the answer (and this is only to a small minority of all faiths/religions....) Protests should always be calm and safe - otherwise people tend to dwell on the few that go extreme.... and lose track of the real issue... i feel this has happened alot in this thread, by others and even myself...
Cheers to all that took time and effort to explain things to me (especially you amnesia  )
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Sammy_boy
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Awww, how sweet, a singsong!
I think the time is close for locking this thread. I'll PM a mod later today and ask them to lock this I think before we do go round in circles or any bad feelings do arise. To bring this thread to a conclusion, any final thoughts or feelings?
Or yes, song lyrics!
"All it takes for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing" - Edmund Burke
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absinthebri
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On 2006-02-10 11:03:25, Sammy_boy wrote:
...any final thoughts or feelings?
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Yes, you either find it acceptable to threaten to kill someone for expressing a point of view or you don't.
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leeboy13
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whats your view to that question?
to sum up
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Sammy_boy
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My view? I tend to stay neutral on these kinds of things, as both sides usually have very good points. There's usually no right or wrong in these kinds of things, no one is 100% in the right or 100% in the wrong. I wanted to try to understand this better, and I think this thread has helped me to do that.
Basically as I say, the row seems to be also caused by both sides not understanding each other, Westerners not understanding how insulting that cartoon was, and Muslims not understanding Westerners that well, and taking personally a cartoon that wasn't meant to be, although I do feel that cartoon was in poor taste and was an abuse of free speech.
"All it takes for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing" - Edmund Burke
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Posted: 2006-02-10 00:43
