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Satio vs Nokia N8 |
Sassho
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On 2010-10-18 19:33:46, deyaniralastrega wrote:
I see less noise in satio shots
Less noise - less detail  N8 is better
Great shot by N8 - link is full
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deyaniralastrega
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On 2010-10-18 19:38:52, Sassho wrote:
Less noise - less detail N8 is better
mah. it seems to me the exact opposite looking at the pictures.
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zide
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How in tha freaking hell can you compare captured noise with two completely different photos? -.-'
This discussion is a nonsense. N8 is a better camera because it has a larger sensor (so, less noise in both daylight low-light), has adjustable and tweak-able image settings, does not have chromatic aberrations, does not over-exposures highlights and has a 28mm wide lens with no distortion.
See my photos taken with the C902, Satio or E72 in here! |
deyaniralastrega
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On 2010-10-18 19:44:26, zide wrote:
How in tha freaking hell can you compare captured noise with two completely different photos? -.-'
This discussion is a nonsense. N8 is a better camera because it has a larger sensor (so, less noise in both daylight low-light), has adjustable and tweak-able image settings, does not have chromatic aberrations, does not over-exposures highlights and has a 28mm wide lens with no distortion.
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Sassho
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On 2010-10-18 19:44:26, zide wrote:
and has a 28mm wide lens with no distortion.
No agree. N8 principle have big blur on right side or many other places. Sensor is BEST but optics is WORSE. I don't understand how Zeiss made a such bad optics? 
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zide
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Of course it is, but did I say anything which is not true?
You are judging NB by comparing two completely different shots, one with flash and the other without, different exposures, different ISO and shutter speeds... Sorry but that does show that you must know little about photography.
EDIT. @ Sassho - Yeah, some shots seem to have that, but I would not call that a perspective distortion problem.
[ This Message was edited by: zide on 2010-10-18 18:57 ] See my photos taken with the C902, Satio or E72 in here! |
deyaniralastrega
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Both photos that I post have Flash , and the iso is not set, but automatic, like all the setting.
only the satio has a wrong setting, because it has face detenction |
Sassho
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Perspective distortions is here but this's normal for wide angle lens. But blur is BIG problem
P.P. Amazing good natural colors - people are dying for this
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KimbaDWL
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Well, I will give away my Satio tomorrow. For me the N8 suits me better. Is it the BEST cameraphone? I donīt know.....and I donīt care It is simply the best complete package adjusted to my needs: a very good camera, way better video-recording (especially the sound!!) and an nice OS.....and so on.
So before giving it away I tried to do some night-shots. I have to say that a propper comparison without a tripod seems to be impossible. With both phones in night mode I was not able to get a steady shot with my Satio. When in
night-mode, the Satio-display lags as hell and its focus is set to infinitiv while the N8-display reacts as fast as ever and still has auto-focus. Or I did something wrong with the Satio.
So...these shots where taken in absolut cloudy dark. All scenes whre just lit by streetlamps or lights from the buildings.
Left: N8 Right: Satio
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Obviously I used the wrong settings with the Satio and changed the N8 resolution by mistake. That making the comparison worthless and giving wrong impressions. So I deleted the pictures!
Note: The last pictures where named wrong by me, when uploaded to Imageshack, but the "better" ones are still from the N8. Check the EXIF-Data, if needed. So...with my limited abilities, I would say the N8 is better for darker surroundings.
And again: a propper comparison would need a tripod.
Greeting
KimbaDWL
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io_bg
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With both phones in night mode I was not able to get a steady shot with my Satio.
Let me guess you've put Twilight Landscape mode on Satio As it's name says, it's only for landscape pictures. If you want to shoot closer objects, choose Twilight Portrait  |
KimbaDWL
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Right. Since the Satio and the N8 both offer Twilight Portrait I thought the "Night" and "Twilight Landscape" would be equal as well, just with different names. Hmm....my fault.
Will try it again tomorrow morning!
Greetings
Kimba DWL
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zide
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Man, just use Auto mode with flash. This would be the best way to compare them. Oh, and set both to 12mp to be more accurate.
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HxH
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On 2010-10-18 22:24:25, zide wrote:
Man, just use Auto mode with flash. This would be the best way to compare them. Oh, and set both to 12mp to be more accurate.
Agreed, Thanks for your great effort!
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Vit
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On 2010-10-18 19:42:10, deyaniralastrega wrote:
On 2010-10-18 19:38:52, Sassho wrote:
Less noise - less detail N8 is better
mah. it seems to me the exact opposite looking at the pictures.
Man, youīre such an dumb ass. Sorry saying that, but thatīs the truth.
Someone had to say (write) it, and you saw that coming. Letīs face it.
Apart from the fact that these shots depict completely different scenes, the N8 shot has been taken @ ISO-800, whereas the Satio shot has been taken @ ISO-100.
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Vit
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On 2010-10-18 19:52:50, Sassho wrote:
On 2010-10-18 19:44:26, zide wrote:
and has a 28mm wide lens with no distortion.
No agree. N8 principle have big blur on right side or many other places. Sensor is BEST but optics is WORSE. I don't understand how Zeiss made a such bad optics?
[ This Message was edited by: Sassho on 2010-10-18 19:03 ]
Sorry, but one cannot simply say that the N8īs optics is worse.
In terms of corner softness, I guess that both the Satio and the N8 are pretty much on par, and thatīs bad, I agree.
But in most other areas the N8 seems to fare better than the Satio.
It has virtually no coloured fringing (even though it can be software corrected - my Nikon D5000, for instance, has automatic purple fringing correction) and it also seems to handle flare better than the Satio.
Besides that, apart from the edges, where the blur takes place, its resolved resolution is quite impressive. People into photography know that if you attach a poor quality lens (i.e. kit lens) to a DSLR, you may end up with shots that do not resolve the total sensor resolution.
The Canon 550D is an example of that. If you buy it alongside its kit lens, youīll not be able to achieve all those 18 Mega Pixels.
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