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Plemix.com
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On 2008-03-06 06:36:30, dentoters07 wrote:
ok.. so why put a 3.2MP cam? why not put, at least, an auto focus? why not just stick wit the 2mp or sumthin? just to make the price higher, maybe?? imo, it a completely waste or money.. but then again, its about everyone's preferences.. looks can be deceiving.. if people will get this phone, i think they are just paying for the design and not the features...
Peace! 
MMm, may be this is the reason... The cost to include the software to capture a 3.2 MP equals to the cost of getting a 2MP camera now. Then it make sense to do this "no cost upgrade" for marketing purpose.
Then why not the AF feature in the phone? May be the cost of doing an AF feature in the phone is minimal BUT if the Walkman series got the 3.2 MP AF camera inside, then who will buy the K series then? Marketing people think in "Product differenciation ways" so W = Walkman no AF, K = AF, Flash, but no fancy walkman functions. Then you will buy 2 x phones from SE.
Yes people generally judge things by the look. And that is why SE phones are great. |
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Oh Oh... forgot to mention this.. Looks like Black 890i is available. The purchase guys told me about this. |
baconnugget
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i presume af requires some kind of licensing fee to the patent holder might of made it uneconomical, and basically the phone is for music so most the people who bought the w880 are going to upgrade to the w890i prob not even knowing what af is for most casual users. |
justinl
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ok.. so why put a 3.2MP cam? why not put, at least, an auto focus? why not just stick wit the 2mp or sumthin? just to make the price higher, maybe?? imo, it a completely waste or money.. but then again, its about everyone's preferences.. looks can be deceiving.. if people will get this phone, i think they are just paying for the design and not the features...
Peace!
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Personally, there is no difference between a 2meg and 3.2 meg for lens just the amount of pixels it captures and decodes. As for autofocus they would need to use a totally new lens, remember how thin the W890i actually is, you couldn't put a thicker lens in allowing for autofocus without increasing the thickness of the phone. As someone pointed out the camera on this phone is very much an afterthought, anyone looking at this phone wouldn't be worried about it's picture capturing abilities. SE have other phones for that. |
baconnugget
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coz 3.2 mpix sound better than a 2 mpix most mobile users wont be bothered with af they wont investigate the spec closely, when they go to the shop these will see it the latest handset and more mpix and purchase. if it had af it wud prob screw up sales of cybershot range. |
>500
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black one on the way 
thank god the mocha brown with out chinese characters on keypad went out of stock
now i get my black one
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Plemix.com
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@>500
Congraz mate.
Here are the Black W890i photos.
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why does it say stereo speakers on the box? when it only has one speaker? 
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masseur
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my HK one from x1387 has that sticker but the box the UK silver one came it does not
the white paper doesn't mention stereo speakers either and in fact when it talks about "stereo widening" in the walkman player it says "The stereo widening and megabass effects improve the sound experience when listenign to music through a stereo bluetooth headset, external stereo speakers or stereo portable hands free", i.e. no mention of through the handset speaker
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shadwellal
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Just got a W890 as an upgrade from my W880. Generally pleased with it, but can't seem to find an option for the "sleep mode clock" so there is no way to tell whether the phone is on, or whether there are any missed calls, messages etc just by looking at the phone when in standby. Is this a deliberate battery saving ploy, or have I missed an option in the menus? (it's not under the display menu like in the W880) |
masseur
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nope. its not on either of the two I have here (HK and UK).
I see its mentioned in the downloadable w880 user guide but its not mentioned in the downloadable w890 user guide suggesting that its not implemented
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Muhammad-Oli
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@masseur: Maybe the "external speakers" are the phone speaker? They are on the outside. Kind of.
@shadwellal: SE have removed that feature and I don't think anyone really knows why, as surely its user choice to have it! The best you can do is while it's in sleep mode, hit a volume key and you should see see what you want until the screen dims again.
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dentoters07
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On 2008-03-06 07:47:34, Plemix.com wrote:
On 2008-03-06 06:36:30, dentoters07 wrote:
ok.. so why put a 3.2MP cam? why not put, at least, an auto focus? why not just stick wit the 2mp or sumthin? just to make the price higher, maybe?? imo, it a completely waste or money.. but then again, its about everyone's preferences.. looks can be deceiving.. if people will get this phone, i think they are just paying for the design and not the features...
Peace!
MMm, may be this is the reason... The cost to include the software to capture a 3.2 MP equals to the cost of getting a 2MP camera now. Then it make sense to do this "no cost upgrade" for marketing purpose.
Then why not the AF feature in the phone? May be the cost of doing an AF feature in the phone is minimal BUT if the Walkman series got the 3.2 MP AF camera inside, then who will buy the K series then? Marketing people think in "Product differenciation ways" so W = Walkman no AF, K = AF, Flash, but no fancy walkman functions. Then you will buy 2 x phones from SE.
Yes people generally judge things by the look. And that is why SE phones are great.
ok.. i get the first part.. but the 2nd one.. errr.. it's kinda like sayin' that SE is misleading us pr something.. or maybe im juz sleepy.. |
chombos1
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i'm afraid that the video recording fps won't be corrected and the white paper is providing wrong info.
K850 had this issue but in fact; it's videos were actually 30fps but each 2 frames were recorded twice... resulting a practical 15fps (that was clearly a bug)
W890 does not have 30 frames per second in the video (unlike K850.. which had) so i think it can not be fixed.
but this not the only case... in the W760 white paper it is also stated that the video is QVGA 30fps.... i think that is another mistake too.
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OK, mine on it's way ..... £210 plus £10 P&P from Ebay. Choice of two - silver & mocha and I finally went for ................... SILVER!
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