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P990 Firmware Thread | latest: ph:R7A001, org:R3B01, bt:R4F01 |
Mac
Joined: Apr 17, 2002
Posts: 26
From: Belgium
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just got my P990 a couple of days ago, bought in Belgium
firmware:
Tel: R4B001
bluetooth:R4F01
organiser:R2A04
CDA: /55 R1A03
/55 R1A03
If I try to update I get a message that my phone is up to date (yeah right), as far as I know the phone is unlocked, what is the problem? translation of the firmware perhaps?
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dineshrai42
Joined: Sep 11, 2006
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joel80
Photography is an almost full time hobby of mine. So I know about zoom, lighting, steady hands, aperture, etc. Trust me, do not brush this off as a user related problem simply because you might have a good manufactured run.
The phone's autofocus does not work at all when using zoom. Period. At least for the phones that some of us have. Be it taken from a table or handheld. You can spend the whole day, with surgeon steady hands and noon bright sunshine, and this rubbish happens 99% of the time.
I do not see the need to waste time using Photoshop for every picture I wanted a zoomed in frame simply because the autofocus "feature" on the last 3 P990i phones I checked DOES NOT WORK. So forget about even progressing to the next step of actually taking the picture.
Unless there is a QC problem with some of the phones, SE will need to recall some of these phones. |
SL33PYH34D
Joined: Sep 06, 2004
Posts: 486
From: Berkshire, UK
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On 2006-09-13 03:33:16, dineshrai42 wrote:
Photography is an almost full time hobby of mine. So I know about zoom, lighting, steady hands, aperture, etc.[...] |
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So you'll also know that digital zooms are a complete waste of time in the first place then.   |
ares
Joined: Dec 11, 2003
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From: Coimbra, Portugal
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On 2006-09-13 03:33:16, dineshrai42 wrote:
joel80
Photography is an almost full time hobby of mine. So I know about zoom, lighting, steady hands, aperture, etc. Trust me, do not brush this off as a user related problem simply because you might have a good manufactured run.
The phone's autofocus does not work at all when using zoom. Period. At least for the phones that some of us have. Be it taken from a table or handheld. You can spend the whole day, with surgeon steady hands and noon bright sunshine, and this rubbish happens 99% of the time.
I do not see the need to waste time using Photoshop for every picture I wanted a zoomed in frame simply because the autofocus "feature" on the last 3 P990i phones I checked DOES NOT WORK. So forget about even progressing to the next step of actually taking the picture.
Unless there is a QC problem with some of the phones, SE will need to recall some of these phones.
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any person really interested in photography has an art know digital zoom is a "sin"...a complete waste of time...i also am a amateur photographer btw
but you´re right, the phone should focus in all conditions, i can´t deny it...its just that using digital zoom is pointless IMHO
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_LAU_
Joined: Sep 10, 2004
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From: Zeta Reticuli Phones:.P1;.P910
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For those who didn't quite undestood what Optical vs. Digital Zoom is, here's a good example:
As you can see, digital zoom is NEVER is focus because it doesn't have more information than the Original picture !!
The only thing it does is to augment a portion of the Original image and blur it to hide the augmented pixels.
[ This Message was edited by: _LAU_ on 2006-09-13 11:26 ] |
CrimInalA
Joined: Jan 24, 2004
Posts: 31
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This is NOT a discussion between optical-digital zoom .
It is NOT about the quality of digital zoom .
It is about P990i phones whith an almost non working focus and therefore useless zoom . When i zoom and let the phone focus , it's only clear for 0.01sec , then it blurs out . So either there is something wrong with the autofocus , with the firmware , or ... with the hardware .
People without problems thinking this phone is God : well , there are people who do have problems with this 1000$ phone which are not user related . And there are people who do not have access to the latest firmwares etc.
Believe it or not . |
Andy_P
Joined: Jun 10, 2002
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From: Warwickshire
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On 2006-09-13 13:23:04, CrimInalA wrote:
People without problems thinking this phone is God : well , there are people who do have problems with this 1000$ phone which are not user related . And there are people who do not have access to the latest firmwares etc.
Believe it or not .
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did you expect anything less ?
im very happy with mine, thank you.. ive had bugs on all my previous pxx0's but ultimately it does what i require it to..
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antz88c
Joined: Aug 10, 2006
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im still on R3B0 (which is the latest)
anyone knows when there will be another update?
i again checked now, no update available. |
dineshrai42
Joined: Sep 11, 2006
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Sigh ...
Can't understand why people think this is an optical zoom versus digital zoom debate. It's not. Sorry about my poor English, but I'll try again.
We're on the stage BEFORE picture taking. This is the stage when, like in any $100 camera which has a feature called "autofocus". The user has to half-depress the shot button, which activates the "autofocus" to lock on and produce a crisp image. This is irregardeless of whether the framing of the shot in zoomed or not. Once the picture is to your liking, AFTER that you fully depress the shot button to complete taking the picture.
We are talking about the half-depress stage, where the P990i is NOT able to "autofocus" and produce an acceptable display pic when any type of zoom is applied BEFORE the picture is taken.
I hope this is clear enough for all. When the autofocus doesn't work, forget about even bothering with the second stage of completely pushing down the shot button to take the picture.
In any case, even after going ahead to take the picture, it is completely unusable. You might need the CIA or FBI noise imaging technology to ensure the pictures turns from superblur to acceptable sharp.
If there's a bunch of you out there who are not having any problems, then consider yourself lucky.
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dineshrai42
Joined: Sep 11, 2006
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Ares & Lau,
If the P990i is so backward in it's "autofocus" technology that it stops functioning when one tries to apply any kind of zoom BEFORE taking a picture, then it shouldn't be a feature in the phone. They should have it removed because it does amount to fraud.
I might have no issues if before taking a picture, ZOOM is disabled. Otherwise, you are cheating your customers with a completely non-working "feature".
If a camera has autofocus, it MUST work under all decent lighting conditions without having to glue it to a table.
I've been a loyal SE customer since the T68i. But if there is cr*p, then there is cr*p because brand loyalty is one thing, but blind loyalty is something all together different.
I love the phone as I've been waiting for it for months. I will hate having to return it back, but will have to if this is not a firmware problem, but a QC problem and batch defect. That's what I'm trying to get at.
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antz88c
Joined: Aug 10, 2006
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With the original R2A04 i never had problems with autofocus. i just dont know if the update to R3B01 f**c*ed up the phone.
Still waiting for SE to address a lot of issues. |
Spawn
Joined: Apr 25, 2003
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On 2006-09-13 14:59:05, dineshrai42 wrote:
Sigh ...
Can't understand why people think this is an optical zoom versus digital zoom debate. It's not. Sorry about my poor English, but I'll try again.
We're on the stage BEFORE picture taking. This is the stage when, like in any $100 camera which has a feature called "autofocus". The user has to half-depress the shot button, which activates the "autofocus" to lock on and produce a crisp image. This is irregardeless of whether the framing of the shot in zoomed or not. Once the picture is to your liking, AFTER that you fully depress the shot button to complete taking the picture.
We are talking about the half-depress stage, where the P990i is NOT able to "autofocus" and produce an acceptable display pic when any type of zoom is applied BEFORE the picture is taken.
I hope this is clear enough for all. When the autofocus doesn't work, forget about even bothering with the second stage of completely pushing down the shot button to take the picture.
In any case, even after going ahead to take the picture, it is completely unusable. You might need the CIA or FBI noise imaging technology to ensure the pictures turns from superblur to acceptable sharp.
If there's a bunch of you out there who are not having any problems, then consider yourself lucky.
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Works fine on mine...even with macro turned off i get clear and very sharp pics from my p990i.
Looks like you might have a faulty phone...unlucky fella, get it replaced.
As i said before and ill say it again...sigh...its only a 2mp camera so dont expect super sharp pics from it. Even my k800i which is a 3mp cam is better but still doesnt produce super sharp pics like i get from my 3mp digi cam. |
ares
Joined: Dec 11, 2003
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From: Coimbra, Portugal
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ppl, can anyone confirm if there is a new fw in SEUS today???
SE w880 + Iphone 4 16gb |
antz88c
Joined: Aug 10, 2006
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On 2006-09-13 15:28:45, ares wrote:
ppl, can anyone confirm if there is a new fw in SEUS today???
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i just sent you PM at my-symbian asking the same question.. : ) |
Jah
Joined: Jun 22, 2003
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From: UK
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On 2006-09-13 15:28:45, ares wrote:
ppl, can anyone confirm if there is a new fw in SEUS today???
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Just checked, no update for the Generic World SIM free P990
Join the 'dots' and see what happens |
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Posted: 2006-09-12 18:06
