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K750i camera compared with other camera phones |
Klorin
Joined: Oct 09, 2004
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My camera-test K750i vs 6230i
K750i / 6230i
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
I used highest quality on both phones.
I did not take the pictures over and over again to get them as good as possible.
Last picture didnt turn out well on 6230i since it doesnt have macro, but it looks great from K750i!!
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mario2002
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Wow,did I fired up this tread or what ;-) Buddies,I am not a Nokia nor a SE fan.I simply pick up the handset which comes closest to my wish (feature wise) and thats it.For me at least the big 'down' concerning the K750i is - NO EDGE - Anyway,very nice and usefull phone indeed.And the N90 runs just about all of the S60 software ! Is backwards compatible as any other S60 device. Its screen resolution is exactly 2xX and 2xY only to keep it fully S60 compatible ;-) Greetings from South Africa. Mario.
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slattery69
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nice comparison klorin i must say the more shots i see from the k750 the less impressed i become. its seems its fantastic at close up stuff but when you take pics from a slight distance the whole background seems to get far to blurry as in those shots.
mind you they aint bad for a phone at all just dont live up the hype that people have been claiming on here for a while.
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etaab
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On 2005-05-31 09:35:31, slattery69 wrote:
the whole background seems to get far to blurry as in those shots
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Its doesnt seem to do that on my K750i, look at the horizon in this picture (click it to enlarge it), sure its not totally pixel perfect, but thats because its simply not possible with a 2mp camera. Not even my 5mp cybershot camera takes them much better or sharper than the K750i. 
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Arne Anka
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On 2005-05-31 07:05:15, mario2002 wrote:
And the N90 runs just about all of the S60 software ! Is backwards compatible as any other S60 device.
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No, at present time it does not. Since you have not used it, I suggest you read the review below instead.
Unfortunately, the Nokia N90 failed to run the majority of the applications made for Nokia smartphones. The main problem was the screen resolution, every attempt to redraw an image for a high resolution resulted in smartphone restart. And correspondingly, the SPMark04 also failed.
http://www.mobile-review.com/review/nokia-n90-en.shtml
Also about the bad battery performance.
Unfortunately, everything is not as smooth with the battery life. A standard Li-Ion BL-5B battery capacious of 760 mAh is used. For you to compare, the majority of today smartphones has a BL-5C capacious of 900 mAh. There are no expanded capacity batteries for the N90 and they are unlikely to be provided. The claimed standby time is 240 hours and up to 4.5 hour of talking. In reality, the device worked for about a day in Moscow networks (about 18 hours, to be precise). Using all the functions actively and mainly shooting shortened the battery life to a half of a day (about 3-4 clips with the duration of 2 minutes each and up to 60 photos). The main charge is spent on the two screens, a louder call signal as compared with the previous models and mechanic rotations with one or another phone mode turning on after. And the entire mechanic enchanting spectacle is not traceless for the device. The most economical N90 users will keep it alive for a day and a half and then the device will remind of a charging necessity. One should account on the battery enough for a day in case of 40 minutes of talks and up to 30 minutes of using other functions. Using the device longer will seriously decrease the battery life which is a minus. The big weight of the device prevented from increasing the battery capacity to 1100 mAh or more. That is also a shortcoming.
Never the less, N90 will for sure be a good phone. But IMO its not worth the money. Personly I think N70 is a better choice if you are an S60 fan.
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tazmania
Joined: May 10, 2005
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how can a device, 1 day of batterylife, such a high price and so big in size and weight, be a good phone ??? id say the oposite. oh and did i mention its ugly and has a small screen for its size ?
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numb
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On 2005-05-31 09:35:31, slattery69 wrote:
nice comparison klorin i must say the more shots i see from the k750 the less impressed i become. its seems its fantastic at close up stuff but when you take pics from a slight distance the whole background seems to get far to blurry as in those shots.
mind you they aint bad for a phone at all just dont live up the hype that people have been claiming on here for a while.
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no it doesnt, but keep in mind that the camera itself is not everything, the ability of the photographer is atleast as important sometimes even more. Good shots require a photographer with a sense of getting the right lightangle, choosing the right camerasettings, keeping the camera steady, focusing in the right spot, etc etc.
Most mobilecam photographers seems to be pretty poor photographers in general. This is one of the reason you see such diversity in quality from mobilecams. |
slattery69
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@numb fair point ability of the photographer has to be taken into account, just the shots ive seen have disappointed me but its early day as more people get them we may see better shots.
ill still get one as the camera makes no odds to me ive had camera phones for 3 years and only taken 5 pics with all of them
?@etaab your pic was certainly better little blurry round the trees but no where near as much looks alot more realistic and more like a real camera |
etaab
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Heh, i put that down to the sky being so damn bright. I took that picture at about 7.30am on Sunday morning, and the morning sun was incredibly bright.
If i'd took that picture with a VGA camera, the sky would have been massively over-exposed and could have been completely white or with those black spots you'd get from bright light sources.
If it had been a duller day, the trees wouldnt have been blurred around the edges due to the sky being so high in contrast to the rest of the picture.
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mario2002
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@Arne Anka Look who has done the review ! I have already emailed him with a few questions and I am still waiting for a reply :-( Just check the 'N90' pics with a hex editor ! Surprise , suprise ;-) and the video he only comments on 3gp (ment for mms) and not even a mention about the mpeg4 (ment for vhs recordings) anyway did't that same chap review (guite negatively biased) the 6630? And when the 6630 come out, had little reassemblance to his review.Buddy lets wait and see.I hope the final N90 won't be as buggy as the recently released K750i.Greetings from South Africa.Mario.
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numb
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#Mario
You really should take the time and read up a litle on video.
Learn the basics.
The 8fps mp4/aac video that the N90 records has nothing to do with VHS quality. First off it would need to record in atleast 25fps, not 8-9 fps as it does. Secondly it would have to record better audio. Thirdly for VHS quality recorded bitrate should be atleast 1100kbits
Try and take a closer look at the samplevideos supplied by nokia, these are recorded by Nokia and should represent best possible video, and its so jumpy I cant bear to look at it. The K750 videos are much less jumpy.
http://www.mobile-review.com/[....]/nokia/n90/photos/Video005.mp4
http://www.mobile-review.com/[....]/nokia/n90/photos/Video008.mp4
http://www.mobile-review.com/[....]/nokia/n90/photos/Video011.mp4
And some testclips recorded by mobile-review show the same problematic stutter.
http://www.mobile-review.com/[....]nokia/n90/photos/Video(04).mp4
http://www.mobile-review.com/[....]nokia/n90/photos/Video(06).mp4
If you think the N90 is a new world of videophones competing with real videocams, then you are really a naive victim of nokia marketing.
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ASM
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Comparison with my K700i and my K750i (K750i on left, K700i is on the right)
 
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etaab
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@ numb, i couldnt agree more mate. 
I have a XDA2, which records in MP4 aswel. It too suffers from the bad stuttering video and poor sound quality.
I just forget what size video it records in, but its not much smaller than the N90. So, for a PDA phone thats 18 months old, i'd expect more from the "new" N90. 
Heres an example:
http://rapidshare.de/files/2105317/video_00031.mp4.html
As you can see, although it records video larger than the K750i, the quality is much worse - just like the N90.
I'm starting to feel rather disappointed about the N90 now, i was considering buying one later this year but now i'll have to rethink my plans.
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numb
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yeah I remember my first impression when I read about the N90 was WOW, great specs, should I get a Nokia for once, but now Im not so sure, the more I dig into it, the more I feel, oh well its "just" another s60 nokia, with a good camera. A good phone no doubt, but nothing really mindblowing or that extraordinary. Camera is good, but not really better than K750, neither is video, and its hughe and heavy which definately does not suit me to well. Where I live there are no edge and 3g covery is very poor and expensive, so these are not factors I take into consideration. That doesnt leave to many reasons for me to trade my K750 (which I love) for the N90
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tazmania
Joined: May 10, 2005
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now hes calling the k750 buggy.... what else is he gonna come up with ???
and 8-9fps ??? damn, i didnt know the video on the N90 sucked so much...
considering the human eye catches about 30-40fps than those videos must really be crap !!!
oh and let me correct some1 who said that it cant compete with todays camcorders...
the fact is it cant even compare with the video on the cheapest 3MP digital cameras out there right now !!!!
Greetings from planet Pluto !!!
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