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whizkidd
Joined: May 14, 2004
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It is not 3g dawg! But i think EDGE speeds are good enough for the time being. We only need more EDGE enabled phones!
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harryville
Joined: Jun 22, 2004
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I did a test the other day between a 3g phone and an 'old' 2g(GPRS) one
The 3g was using a swedish company Comviq and the 2g was with Vodafone.
I thought that after all the hype about 3g concerning speed etc it would be an easy battle. I was amased to find that with the GPRS one I was able to surf around to several site BEFORE the 3g phone had actually loaded anything!!!!
I know that it isnt just about surfing but 3g has other good potentials. This test was just to see how the average person would most likely use their phone.
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scotsboyuk
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On 2004-12-13 05:39:00, AYA wrote:
With over 120million people, and economic power of the majority similar to what obtains in India, you think India "qualifies" and Nigeria does not? Sounds strange.
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Not really when one considers that India has a population of over a billion. Even if just ten percent of Indians could afford to buy and use a mobile phone, that is still more than a hundred million people, almost the entire population of Nigeria. Indian networks could afford to make their services very cheap, in the long term, because, even with a poor population, the number of people able to afford even basic services, is still so huge that they can generate massive profits. The UK, for example, has approximately fifty million mobile phone users, who between them send more than 2 billion texts a month, at an average cost of approximately £0.08 each, generating sales of £160 million/month. If Indian mobile growth rates manage to reach 10% of the population (almost certainly they will), they would be capable of generating double the profit base don a 10% uptake, compared with over 80% in the UK.
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One interesting point is, 3g is not even working so well at the moment for those of you who have taken it up. Why would you want to foist on us whatz not working?
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Foist on you? I don't think it is a question of forcing 3G upon anyone. In fact, by the time Nigeria does implement 3G, if at all, it should be at the stage where the bugs experienced at the moment have been ironed out, thus making it a better service to have.
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I read reports & comments of 3g subscribers from around the world. Its more negative than positive, even in your country. Its hard to see why anyone came up with something so different that it needs completely new infrastructure to run. 3g is a waste, IMO.
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The reason we have telephones at all is because someone invented a system that required a new infrastructure. Just because soemthing is difficult does not mean that it isn't worth doing. How long did it take for us to get to the point where mobile phones were small enough to fit in one's pocket? New technology takes time, but so far the reports seem to have been rather favourable of the technology itself, the only major exceotion being battery life, which is improving with newer handsets. Most of the criticism seems to be directed towards customer services.
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I suspect that 3g was never about the consumer. It probably was someone's idea to ride the "next wave".
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Highly doubtful, unless that person has a great deal of influence over the policies of numerous corporations and is able to persuade them to invest vast sums of money.
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Hopefully, network developers have learnt their lessons with this costly mistake called 3g.
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Since 3G appears to be doing rather well in both Europe and Japan I wouldn't label it a 'mistake' just yet.
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I don't see 3G as being dead at all, nor do I see it as being 'too much, too soon' either. 3G, like any new technology presented to the public, takes time to establish itself. If one look to Japan, for example, one would see a thriving 3G market. Europe is now beginning to adopt 3G en masse. The real driving force behind 3G will be services, and not just those services, which are network driven. As public services, shops, businesses, etc integrate into the 3G networks, the appeal of 3G will broaden immensely.
Different cultures utilise technology in different ways, the SMS/MMS example is quite appropriate in this respect. MMS hasn't replaced SMS, but why hasn't SMS taken off in the U.S. to the same extent it has just about everywhere else? Americans use their mobiles differently, and from spekaing with American friends I have seen that they do not use data services much, if at all, when compared to Europeans. I know several people who are very much looking forward to 3G speeds for accessing the internet from their laptops, as well as looking forward to downloading music and news clips direct to their mobile. There is also a feeling that we shall get to see more of the services available in japan once we have 3G, especially the ability to use one's mobile to make purchases. Mobile television also seems very popular amongst those I have spoken with.
3G is very much alive and kicking, new handsets and better network services are bringing in new customers, in the UK at least. Customers, as a whole, do not care about standards or technical specifications, they want nice looking mobiles, which perform well and allow them to do interesting things. 3G can, and already does to an extent, offer them those services. Within the next year or two most of Western Europe will be very much moving towards, or already be, 3G in my opinion.
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shyam335
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On 2004-12-13 11:12:34, Indiandawg wrote:
well first i would lyke to ask is Orange going to launch 3G network in India?
secondly in india reliance uses 3G network and the network is anyday better than any 2g network companies
i have surfed the reliance world also and it shows the videos and trust me we can see the video quiet clearly...i guess 3G network of reliacne in india is awsome..!!!
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i cant imagine the reliance to be 3g ,they are only cdma 1x2000 , i think they dont even have mms |
whizkidd
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Definitely Reliance is not 3g!
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voda_jon
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just a couple of things...
Take up of 3G on voda UK is going superb... loads of new customers and loads of upgrades to 3G handsets being made...
As it was when the 2G networks started up the new 3G networks will have bugs and problems... there are as many 3G technicians within vodafone as there are 2G ones... Dont forget the old days of analogue... it didnt die and neither will 3G (in the UK at least). 4G, if developed and launched, will take a while to appear in the UK. Dont forget its the government who release the licenses and i doubt they will release them as soon as they are developed...
I dont know about the other networks but vodafone WILL NOT be switching its 2G/2.5G network off. We believe that people who want to will move onto 3G handsets... My partner (who also works in vodafone but in a store) has sold quite a few nokia 6630's and motorola v980's (both fones generally free on upgrades) to people who before seeing 3G working werent interested in anything like that.
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scotsboyuk
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@voda_jon
3G looks to have a very bright in the UK once handset problems have been solved, namely the size of the handsets and the battery life. Both, of which are improving and it shouldn't be too long before they are comparable with 2.5G handsets.
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vineet_d
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Well i agree to scots here. :-)
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