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Memzee
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Posted: 2004-12-10 17:55
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He's not saying that they're not SE, he's saying that he likes to see leaked pictures of phones, but that SE don't.

Karina definitely has a bit of Siemens in there, don't ask me why. Kristina looks a lot like the T610.

They're entry level handsets; Kristina has a VGA Cam, 12MB internal memory, 128*128 screen, 40-bit polyphonic ringtones, and Karina has 128*128 screen, and that seems to be about it. The design of entry level phones have always been like this, anything with an index of 500 and above is what gets the special SE design treatment.

Nothing to get excited about.

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Posted: 2004-12-10 17:57
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and what makes Eldar always right? [addsig]
MurtazinEldar
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Posted: 2004-12-10 18:03
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I said it before and could repeat, both models are real... if you need specs and price, launch date read ruusian part of our site
slattery69
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Posted: 2004-12-10 18:26
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why do people always feel the need to have a pop at people who are posting info and pics. if you dont believe them fair enough but some of the comments written in this thread are even worse
i mean comments like se would nt design such phone oh really so work for se do you in the design dept and can comment on these things.
if you dont believe them just say i think there fakes but wait and see.
why flame some one for just posting info or even taking the piss out of you ( i aint saying this is what wapchimp is doing) just wait and see it.
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Posted: 2004-12-10 18:45
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looks like t610

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wapchimp
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Posted: 2004-12-10 18:57
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Murtazineldar has these phones.

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jcwhite_uk
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Posted: 2004-12-10 19:06
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Those pictures arent of the real thing. They are 3D generated. I will only beleive the look of the phone when I see a picture of the real thing.
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Posted: 2004-12-10 19:25
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Quote:

On 2004-12-10 19:06:40, jcwhite_uk wrote:
Those pictures arent of the real thing. They are 3D generated. I will only beleive the look of the phone when I see a picture of the real thing.




so what ?
believe it or not, i guess no one cares if you don't do, after eldar confirmed that they are real
slattery69
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Posted: 2004-12-10 19:28
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dont most designs start out in a 3d generated state so they can test the viablity of the project via focus groups without the need to spend large amounts of money on building prototypes.
either way real or not nonone is telling anyone they have to believe or even read the thread.
you can just wait until they are announced (if they are real) and then give wapchimp etc a pat on the back for the info.
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Posted: 2004-12-10 19:48
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How's this for a 'conspiracy' theory...
SE put their designs somewhere on the 'net where an Esatonian may 'find' them and post it here, or give the info to a telco where some members here work and post it. They then sit back and watch the feedback roll in from other members.

Who knows- perhaps the reason one design looks like a T610 is cos many here think it's one of the best designs...
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slattery69
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Posted: 2004-12-10 19:55
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@sammyboy
i am sure in some cases this does happen what better way to get free feed back from your designs
goverments have been doing it for years leak some idea to put taxes up lets say, when the public kick off they still increase taxes but by half of what the leak says and everyone thinks its ok cos its not as bad as it could have been
so while it maybe a conspiricy theory you may not be a million miles off the truth

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wapchimp
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Posted: 2004-12-10 20:21
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lol

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Sammy_boy
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Posted: 2004-12-10 20:26
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I wasn't saying you were, wapchimp!

You never know, maybe you were supposed to find those pics and post them, if u get my meaning. I was half joking with my theory, but you never know...
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MurtazinEldar
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Posted: 2004-12-10 21:54
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Actually SE is not excited about this leak. They try to build security mode inside company, put a very strict warnings in each documents (Hi Steve, I think you read this, hope you could count who provide info from you department. I could help Hint. This guys like bear, Germany and Munich. At least you have several choices. Think why Siemens is so informed about upcoming models? Another hint? Dont put warning before presentations, they not working)

When we post T610 pictures 2 years ago it was a very big article about security issue in SE magazine for stuff, this is funny. Now Se use watermarks for some pictures which they count as important, include some add, hidden info inside graphics and power point presentations. When I read some instructions for stuff they are very funny, very strict rules. But actually SE couldnt protect even prototypes, they loosing around 5-6 units each months... Some of this units coming directly to competitors (this is normal practice in some way, business intelligence).

P.S. I like SE and style of business, products (not all but most of them). But I dont like such people as Dr. Maximilan Schunke, some stuff which couldnt responde for own job, it is shame for company.
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Posted: 2004-12-10 21:54
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Hmmm.

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