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K700 better camera and more memory |
etaab
Joined: Jan 23, 2004
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See, you could store a whole album on a 128mb memory stick if the bit rate was kept at a certain level to keep a balance between file size and audio quality.
All my Mp3's are on average 6mb in size or under and converted to 192kbps, which is about CD quality (i think). So on a 128mb memory stick i could fit about 21 tracks on it. The average album holds around 10-20 tracks (depending on length of each track etc..), so you could fit an album on it easily.
Obviously this isnt possible on the K700, but then again,  never intended it to be.
Apps like the music DJ dont really use much of the phones internal storage space, as they arent very complex. Sure, it would be nice to uninstall apps like it if you didnt want to use them, but you wouldnt get much memory back by doing so.
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slattery69
Joined: Jan 03, 2003
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From: north east england
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@ettab yes i use a 128mb on my palm and can fit an album on and if i use ogg can get a couple on.
not sure i agree when you se never intend the k700 to be like this yes the memory implies this but if you read the site and white paper it describes the media player as playing mp3 and gives the impression that its an mp3 not just that you can use the mp3 as ringtones which given the memory is pretty much all you can do
in true its not a huge loss to me as i much prefer the sound from cds and would rather carry a few cds and a cd player with good headphones and hear the music as it was intended not compressed
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etaab
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Yes i read what SE said about the K700's mp3 player, but what i meant was, i don't think SE intended it to be used by heavy mp3 users as a replacement for devices such as iPods, its not aimed to rival them. 
You could probably fit 4-5 of your favourite mp3's on the K700's 32mb storage.
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wapchimp
Joined: Jun 09, 2002
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From: Land of the chimps
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K700 will have 41mb. Found that out today when I played aroubd with a Z1010 
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etaab
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How ? did the Z1010 tell you ? 
I dont think SE will let us have 41mb for use, i think they'll do something to limit it to about 32mb, such as installing crap we cant delete like pictures of flowers, and silly screensavers that are 500kb in size
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SilveR.
Joined: May 03, 2002
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http://www.52sony.com/info/Sh[....]sp?ArticleID=600&ArticlePage=2
41meg
It's chines text, anyone u can see it at display it's 41meg |
Ninjaturtle
Joined: Jul 02, 2002
Posts: 296
From: Sweden
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That's not the final software.
With games and all pics and so on preloaded i have 33.4 Mb free memory. |
JasonDeFaoite
Joined: Dec 30, 2001
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From: Dublin / Singapore
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What's the total memory in the phone? Do you know. Its either 40MB or 48MB in my view (only requires 2 DIMMs on the PCA to get those values). Anything in between would require 3 DIMMs, which doesn't make sense in terms of cost and layout.
Now can it be total of 40MB? yep, but the SE dutch site did mention 41MB (maybe they're counting 1MB as 1000bytes, the old hard disk capacity trick  ), that'll give 41MB.
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alitokmen
Joined: Mar 14, 2004
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From: Grenoble, France || Ankara, Tu
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On 2004-05-28 16:18:03, nickname88cy wrote:
@uperluminova
1. why dont you buy 3310 instead of yours,z600?
2. why do you have a phone with camera, you will not be a producer.
i want to put as much technology in my phone, you buy a classic one.
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Well, some people get more advanced phones because they use them, and I do not agree when people say that a cell phone is for calling people. A cell phone is for communication, and communication is not only talking; it's messaging and even better it is connecting it to a computer to make it go online.
On the other hand, I thing lots of people have camera phones simply because the maker has put a camera in the phone. I have my Canon IXUS 400 and probably will not be taking pictures with a K700!
The same for other advanced features... For instance my brother has a smartphone; but I don't think he uses the smartphone features a lot!!
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slattery69
Joined: Jan 03, 2003
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From: north east england
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it looks like 41mb it is a strange number like others have said. quite why se have so far said 32mb in all literature. though extra memory is always an added bonus
the only thing that might effect it i suppose is what the networks do to it maybe they will load it up which is why se has quoted 32mb as they know that the netowrks are gonna drop in a few sample movies mp3 themes etc
sim free buyers may get the 41mb
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etaab
Joined: Jan 23, 2004
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From: UK - South Yorkshire
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Oh god i hadnt thought about sample movies..
T-mobile will be the worst, and will probably put a 10mb T-mobile advertisment on the phone you cant delete ! 
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adnhk1
Joined: May 23, 2002
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My point of view is, SE could easily kill off NK and others if it adds in at least a DUO card capability into K700 for people to store more MP3s, video clips, etc. See, Ipod is good, no doubt about it, but SE's implemention of MP3 player has always been good too, eversince HPM-10 (the external MP3 player that plugs into T28, T68m/i, even T610), SE has been using stereo output, unlike most NK's implementation which are mono only (except a few like the new 6230, Ngage, etc). The main advantage of having a good MP3 player on my phone, is that I can listen to music for as long as I want, and not afraid of missing a single call or SMS, e-mail, etc. With Ipod (or, as a matter of fact, any other other MP3 player), the chances of these issues are high. Missing calls, etc may not be important to some, but it may be a life and death matter for others.
As for the camera, well, wait till they reaches 3.2MP (like the new Casio phone) then will I consider them to be of any real advantage
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JasonDeFaoite
Joined: Dec 30, 2001
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From: Dublin / Singapore
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Thats what the vibrate is for. Personally if adding MS duo jacks up the price by USD100, then I don't want it. If you need that, wait for the F700.
To be honest, I won't compare an Ipod to the K700 (or F700). Imagine listening to mp3s 8 hours straight on the phone. Would the battery even support that?
We don't even know what the UI for the media player will be like on the K700, scrolling through albums of songs (assuming you had the space!), it would take some doing to beat the iPod in that area |
DarkWolfX
Joined: Apr 06, 2004
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From: Mexico
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YOu even sometimes miss SMS because of just 2 options of hearing the SMS or MMS (Tone, Click or None), I hope the K700, which will come with 6 or 7 options of hearing the messages will have the option of vibrator and loud tons .
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deuxani
Joined: Jul 03, 2003
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From: Amsterdam, Merate, Pula
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If only the K700 had an OGG Player.... I can fit almost 4 hours of great quality music on my 128Mb MMC (next to 20Mb of apps and video's). An average OGG file in 128kbps MP3 quality is about 1,8Mb. That would be a nice solutions. |
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Posted: 2004-05-28 19:23
