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MaThIbUs
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Posted: 2003-11-11 19:17
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i told him!

now i have an excuse to stay away from him
Flying Finn
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Posted: 2003-11-11 20:27
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I remember some Ericsson GH-series phones exploding in the late 90's with original batteries, the company did nothing about them
Arne Anka
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Posted: 2003-11-11 22:05
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I heard that the problems US troops are encountering in IRAQ are actually not caused by terrorist attacks but rather by exploding Nokia phones. I suggest US army purchases some SE phones instead and give their Nokia phones to al-quaida and other terrorist groups. I think that could be the ultimate anti-terrorist weapon ever built (tanks to Nokia).



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Posted: 2003-11-12 15:18
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On 2003-11-11 10:29:01, Vlammetje wrote:

Incorrect my dear Watson.

Out of the latetst incidents (2 in NL, 1 in USA and 1 in Vietnam) that I have heard of, ALL FOUR had the ORIGINAL BATTERY that was supplied with the phone by an official retailer.

And there were TWO exploded in Norway, one with a 3rd party battery AND one with an original battery.

All I'm saying is, Nokia as a company is showing a sickening ruthlessness. They obviously rate sales and $$$$$$ a lot higher than the wellbeing of theri customers. So far (as far as i know anyway) two people have been injured by those phones exploding coz they had them in the pockets in ther trousers. One of these ppl was a child.

Now from where I stand, that is two ppl TOO MANY

I understand that a recall is close to impossible considering the volumes that have been sold. But refusing to even investigate why their own bloody products blow up, that is just cold.

Maybe somebody will need to die first eh (phone against your ear, talking to your friend and BOOM!) before Nokia will be forced to act? Not that I think that will ever happen (someone dieing) however you can get injured. And I for one do not need s scorched ear, do you?



Here's a couple of official notes for you:
http://press.nokia.com/PR/200311/924178_5.html
http://press.nokia.com/PR/200310/920998_5.html

Everyone should know that press in not necessarily the most reliable source of information.
bossjohnc
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Posted: 2003-11-12 16:43
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[Sarcasm]

Oh, well if Nokia say that it *must* be true.

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Matteus
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Posted: 2003-11-12 16:50
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Also German investigations \"STIFTUNG WARENTEST\" claim the same: Nokia batteries can overheat and even explode!

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orange
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Posted: 2003-11-12 16:58
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On 2003-11-12 16:43:34, bossjohnc wrote:
[Sarcasm]

Oh, well if Nokia say that it *must* be true.

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Oh, well if press says that it *must* be true.
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Posted: 2003-11-12 17:08
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On some of the pictures posted from the exploding phones you can clearly see that some of them had an original Nokia battery. So, Nokia isn't exactly telling the truth here.
orange
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Posted: 2003-11-12 17:21
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On 2003-11-12 17:08:40, ppcrockar wrote:
On some of the pictures posted from the exploding phones you can clearly see that some of them had an original Nokia battery. So, Nokia isn't exactly telling the truth here.



That's exactly what the pirate battery looks like. You can't see the difference from outside.
obsixx
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Posted: 2003-11-12 17:26
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With all this talk about exploding nokias, i think i just might get my boss a nokia for christmas. Merry christmas BOOM! ;-)

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MaThIbUs
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Posted: 2003-11-12 19:48
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Arne Anka > good point!
Flying Finn
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Posted: 2003-11-13 04:43
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Nokia sent a couple of its engineers to Belgium yesterday to determine what kind of tests were run on the batteries after it had heard about the report. Their own tests never brought up any problems. The Finnish authorities will also test every mobile phone battery imported to Finland and ban faulty ones if necessary.

So I think you were wrong to say Nokia ignored the complaints.

[ This Message was edited by: Flying Finn on 2003-11-13 03:50 ]
Super G
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Posted: 2003-11-13 05:34
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@pprockar: that's exactly the aim of counterfeits! You can't tell the difference without analyzing the product quite closely!

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Flying Finn
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Posted: 2003-11-14 00:23
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from infosyncworld.com

Since the last update, Belgian consumer group backs down and agrees to new tests.

Consumer group Test-Aankoop has acknowledged that their recent investigation into exploding Nokia batteries produced 'invalid' results as the test samples may have been counterfeit.

Test-Aankoop found that certain models of Nokia batteries did not include short-circuit protections, a claim refuted by Nokia. The consumer group has accepted in a press release that a problem with piracy exists and may have biased the test results..

Test-Aankoop have now agreed to a new independent test of original Nokia batteries to avoid contamination by third-party samples.

Nokia is planning to display examples of counterfeit batteries on its web site, with the intention of helping consumers to avoid buying dodgy goods. This is to join an 'aggressive' program of anti-counterfeit measures.
Jussi2000
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Posted: 2003-11-14 12:17
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On 2003-11-12 17:21:35, orange wrote:
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On 2003-11-12 17:08:40, ppcrockar wrote:
On some of the pictures posted from the exploding phones you can clearly see that some of them had an original Nokia battery. So, Nokia isn't exactly telling the truth here.



That's exactly what the pirate battery looks like. You can't see the difference from outside.



Yes and now Nokia wants to do new tests. I think that Nokia had some prblems with shortcircuit protection in their batteries and when first cases comes out Nokia made some changes for those batterymodels who exploses. And now Nokia says that it is not possible. Hope that this test lab in Belgium will buy it self new Nokia batteries for tests and will not take batteries direct from Nokia. Maybe it is fair play from Nokia to say that: yes we had some problems with our batteries before but we made changes to sohrt circuit protection and now evrything is ok.
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