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mrj82
Joined: Sep 26, 2002
Posts: 256
From: Mississippi, USA
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Yeah T-mobile in the U.S. is horrible about that. Finally they got the T68i a year or so after it was released. But sometimes they get stuff before everyone else. Not very likely anyway. Oh and their prices on phones is outragesous too. They would just hate to give something away like t-mobile in the uk. Plus you have to sign a contract regardless. |
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slattery69
Joined: Jan 03, 2003
Posts: > 500
From: north east england
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@ macgyver appreciated what your saying but everyone makes mistakes.someone probably got excited over the news and just stuck it out. pr departments seldom know what tech dept are doing.
also you mentioned a palm device does the tungsten w or c not have a phone built in vodamoan were advertising them in some mag i saw |
iyiinsan
Joined: Oct 20, 2002
Posts: 366
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I've mailed to se Turkey about this upgrade stuff (when it will be available, which cable model will be needed, etc.) and I will post the answers as soon as I get them. By the way, I am surprised by the stuff they know about the 600, 200, car-100 and even p900!!!
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RizSher
Joined: May 01, 2003
Posts: 109
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> MaThIbUs wrote:
Firmware upgrades can't be done over Bluetooth afaik, because the Bluetooth connection is controlled by the firmware.
Actually, there is a way.. I have a Parrot bluetooth car kit. They let u upgrade the kit via BT (to keep u from hacving to remove the kit from the car everytime for an upgrade).. BUT... U need a kit which is already upgraded to the newer firmware version, then u bridge the two kits via bt thru a laptop..etc etc... Its really for service centers then home users... but.. it is possible to upgrade via bluetooth. |
wrath000
Joined: May 14, 2003
Posts: > 500
From: Norway
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It is actually possible another way as well.
You establish connection to the device over BlueTooth
The new firmware is saved in memory
Device restarts and upgrades firmware from memory.
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macgyver
Joined: Oct 28, 2002
Posts: 90
From: Cupertino, CA - USA
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Well, I work for a very well known computer company (rhymes with Snapple), and our products are generally available wordwide at intro. When they aren't, there's usually not more than a month delay from intro, and we generally say exactly what month it will be available. We do not intro effectively identical products to different regions in different quarters. You can pre-order our products immediately upon intro, and I don't think we've ever put a goof into a press-release as dumb as 'Starting today' when we really meant, starting in the next few months.
And as for the reseller situation, at the end of the day, it's SE's responsible to get their products out there and *sell them*. If the resellers aren't doing a good job, then either work with the resellers to fix the situation, or push direct sales/advertising more. The bottom line is almost everyone I show my P800 to thinks it's totally cool, yet none can easily purchase one. And this is a product that's over a year old. |
ppcrockar
Joined: Mar 04, 2002
Posts: > 500
From: Sweden
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@ Wrath000
It would be possible to upgrade a firmware in exactly the way you described. For example Axis printservers allows you to ftp a new firmware via ethernet to the printserver. When the firmware is fully uploaded the printserver reflashes the firmware and restarts itself. This requires that there is enough room to temporarily store the flash, while it's being uploaded. |
Dazultra2000
Joined: Feb 23, 2003
Posts: 203
From: UK
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Well after 3 phonecalls to SonyEricsson (I work for Orange, I demand answers) we finally discovered info.
Yes, it is true that software updates can be done, although how is still anyone's guess.
The news was premature, as the system isn't ready.
It is expected "before christmas".
It will be possible to update all phones from the T68m upwards as far as I'm aware.
Standard upgrades, say T610 R1L to R3C can be done, as well as the T68m to T68i upgrades.
They wouldn't confirm anything on a P800->P900 update. |
nokevin
Joined: Aug 09, 2003
Posts: 291
From: Tenerife
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Well lets hope that is all true, that means that we will be able to upgrade our T610īs to the new firmware without getting the vodacrap back, if it comming from SE !
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mredd27
Joined: Jul 07, 2003
Posts: 141
From: UK
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Dazultra2000, since you work for Orange did you ask if firmware specific to the various service providers will be available, or will it be SE's firmware for non-branded phones only? I'm with Orange and would want mine upgraded with their particular software version only.
More generally, I think this is great news. And now I'm glad I didn't throw my old serial link cable away when I upgraded to my T610 and Bluetooth.  |
Dazultra2000
Joined: Feb 23, 2003
Posts: 203
From: UK
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As I said, it required 3 phone calls to get any sense out of them, so I'm guessing either the call centre staff are running blind or there just isn't any info about it at the moment.
It all depends on the system I imagine. |
ThreeX
Joined: Dec 21, 2002
Posts: > 500
From: Sweden
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@nokevin
AFAIK it doesnīt work that way.. the upgrade looks for previous "fingerprint" and if itīs by Voda - Voda upgrade is what youīll get. In a sense itīs like Nvidias reference drivers, they find out which model gfx-card you have and apply necessary updates.
Letīs hope i am wrong though! 
Happy owner of: Ericsson GH198, S868, SH888, R310s, T10s, T28s, A2618s, T39m x2, T68m, T66, SE t68i, T610, S700i, Nokia 2110i, 6210, 8310, 8850, 8890 and 6680 Siemens S55 |
mrj82
Joined: Sep 26, 2002
Posts: 256
From: Mississippi, USA
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Anything new on this? |
dantec
Joined: Mar 02, 2003
Posts: 264
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On 2003-10-21 19:00:51, macgyver wrote:
Well, I work for a very well known computer company (rhymes with Snapple), and our products are generally available wordwide at intro. When they aren't, there's usually not more than a month delay from intro, and we generally say exactly what month it will be available. We do not intro effectively identical products to different regions in different quarters. You can pre-order our products immediately upon intro, and I don't think we've ever put a goof into a press-release as dumb as 'Starting today' when we really meant, starting in the next few months.
And as for the reseller situation, at the end of the day, it's SE's responsible to get their products out there and *sell them*. If the resellers aren't doing a good job, then either work with the resellers to fix the situation, or push direct sales/advertising more. The bottom line is almost everyone I show my P800 to thinks it's totally cool, yet none can easily purchase one. And this is a product that's over a year old.
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lol, you could have just told us about your username. We could have worked out what company you worked for I know I was an intern there last year, great place. Holy place indeed.  |
Miss UK
Joined: Jan 11, 2003
Posts: > 500
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be good if u could update all SE phones via internet thru datacable eventually! this I can do already with my Siemens phone!
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