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razec
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^^ Well the grid layout on non-OS started with T68i and nokia followed almost 2 years later with their 7250i. on smartphones P800 and 7650 had both grid menu layout, i don't know which one comes first though.
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vegetaleb
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P800 is the oldest smartphone,when it came out it was an earthquake 
Of course I am talking of popular brands like nokia,SE,motorolla...
Not the Palm or Imate smartphones that were of the ''special'' people because they were very expensive
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mario2004
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On 2009-05-18 23:01:09, goldenface wrote:
C'mon guys this is all al bit childish really. Sony posted its 1st annual loss in 14 years.
Ericsson Loss History
Oh, and BTW both Sony and Ericsson have stated that they are ready to inject more funds if required.
source
Nothing is 'childish' if people in their hundreds are loosing their jobs. (well, unless you are not affected by it) . The link you posted begins with Ericsson saying Sony is the logical buyer of their stake in SE ! ! I am aware, Ericsson 'helped' SE by not demanding their share this time around. It will be interesting to see where Sony will get the money to pump in a company which clearly is on a loosing path. And by the way, sony's 2nd quarter report will turn heads once again - for the wrong reasons though Ericsson does fairly well. What most people on this forum do not understand is: A company must under NO CIRCUMSTANCES have any quarters with negative financial stats. While the board of execs. can make excuses for most other blunders, if it comes to money loss, people will have to go. And sometimes people go even before the 'knife reaches the bone'.
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vegetaleb
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Hello nokia fanboy! stop enjoying the losses of SE,this company stands on flagship phones success and if the W995 will meet its sales promises then Idou will also be another success,so at the end of the year SE would reborn again 
Also don't you forgot that nokia got also losses in the first quarter of 2009 and fired hundred of employees????
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NightBlade
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On 2009-05-22 08:26:48, vegetaleb wrote:
...nokia got also losses in the first quarter of 2009 and fired hundred of employees????
[ This Message was edited by: vegetaleb on 2009-05-22 07:28 ]
In contrast to SE firing 2000.
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goldenface
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@NightBlade
Nokia fires 1700 employees
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NightBlade
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Still 300 less.
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mario2004
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Correct, Nokia will fire 700 workers while another 1000 have received packages. However one must not confuse Nokia or Samsung with SE's troubles ! ! ! Nokia made a profit of almost half a billion (cell department) in the same quarter SE made a 300million loss ! ! ! Even after subtracting Nokia/Siemens losses and the Navtek (another Nokia subsidiary), they are still left with 100million+ profit for the first quarter of 2009. And yes, I am a Nokia/Samsung fanboy Actually I am a fanboy of every successful company and I criticize any moronic company which is going down the drain because of their stupidity
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gtr83
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Monopoly never lasts forever. Nokia is just like Microsoft. Too mainstream! |
Brightspark
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On 2009-05-22 08:26:48, vegetaleb wrote:
Also don't you forgot that nokia got also losses in the first quarter of 2009 and fired hundred of employees????
[ This Message was edited by: vegetaleb on 2009-05-22 07:28 ]
nokia haven't made any losses. they made a profit. |
MWEB
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SE needs Idou to be a monster hit, otherwise they are headed the same way as Motorola, in to oblivion IMO.
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goldenface
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Well if they can get back to the high end, high value and big margins like they did in 2006 then they stand a good chance.
They seem to be heading that way, although the competition is fierce - especially from the Koreans. They need to get back on top in the Euro markets.
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adnansanni
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vegetaleb wrote:
Hello nokia fanboy! stop enjoying the losses of SE,this company stands on flagship phones success and if the W995 will meet its sales promises then Idou will also be another success,so at the end of the year SE would reborn again
Also don't you forgot that nokia got also losses in the first quarter of 2009 and fired hundred of employees????
@vegetaleb:
No offence but do you really think those two model bring SE to top? I don’t think so; If Idou prize range is affordable then maybe it’ll help a little bit but not bring much future. SE has to produce some market leader products right now like W800, K800, W850 and K750.
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carkitter
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@Mario
I was with you up until this point when you stated:
On 2009-05-22 14:34:16, mario2004 wrote:
...Actually I am a fanboy of every successful company and I criticize any moronic company which is going down the drain because of their stupidity
I think that is just plain wrong to blame SE's troubles on being 'moronic' and 'stupid'. You of all people know that there are many professional people with years of experience in Electronics making the decisions and that they are neither stupid nor morons. As I've stated before, my veiw is that the market has shifted and the niche that SE lives within is in danger of disappearing. Nokia is a much bigger company and much more diversified in its market paticipation and yet is not as profitable as Apple or RIM at the moment. Nokia's product strategy needs work too.
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QVGA
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On 2009-05-22 19:50:27, MWEB wrote:
SE needs Idou to be a monster hit, otherwise they are headed the same way as Motorola, in to oblivion IMO.
Everytime SE has thought a little outside the box, they have suffered. W900 didnt sell, X1 didnt sell and i dont know what will happen to IDOU
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