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Posted: 2008-04-15 15:16
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well...the camera is not on par with say n95 camera, but its a good camera...maybe you just don´t know how to take photos???

build quality...the phone is made with metal + rubber...better than the vast majority of phones on the market...its actually one of its strong points....but maybe you had a faulty unit

3rd party apps...there is a good number of high quality apps...not huge numbers though...that should change with UIQ massifications expected for this year (we hope)

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Posted: 2008-04-15 16:08
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A big part of the phone is a mixture of glossy (keyboard and display frame) and painted plastic (main frame surrounding the phone and housing).

Yes, there is a metal front plate and rubber back cover and keyboard and the phone feels actually good when you hold it in the palm of your hand.

But the power and capture button have the worst quality of paint I have ever seen.
Mine started flaking off just two months after a very very careful usage and care.

Believe it or not, this together with the squeaking battery cover were the main reasons why I sold mine off.

I just hate and can't stand cheap (squeaking and flaking) material, especially on a phone and even if it is only a very small part of it.

SE build quality rocks ?

Yes, once it did, but imo no longer does (still better than on most of Nokia phones though).
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Posted: 2008-04-15 16:24
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a really strange thing happened yesterday. and trust me i'm not making this up. i went to a reputed mobile store to inquire about nokia n95 - 8 gb.
the price is about inr 28k. so i asked him if there was some buy back scheme available. he asked me which phone i currently own. i said SE w200 and P1i (have no intention of getting rid of it but just told him).
he said "do me a favor and don't sell your P1i. it's such a great phone! forget n95 and stay with P1i". now he is a mobile store owner. he could have easily told me the shortcomings of P1i and could have convinced me to get a n95. but he didn't. may be it's not "the" perfect phone ever but it's pretty much there i just love it.
p.s - the default headphones suck. get a good pair of headphones and just notice the difference! this is an awesome music phone too! haven't touched my ipod since i got this.
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Posted: 2008-04-15 16:38
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@rawheat

Well, you can always put something in a relation with another thing and say it's worse, equal or better.

In the comparison of P1i vs. N95 I fully agree with your salesman. I already mentioned that it is still better than most of the Nokia toys, err, phones, and N95 is one of them.

Earphones ?

One word, Sennheiser CX-300.

Bass output + clarity + detail + isolation are all awesome.
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Posted: 2008-04-15 16:55
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Funny thing regarding the post about the store salesperson.

A friend of mine bought an N95 about the time i bought my P1 so about 7 months ago. Anyways we were talking and he said to me that the N95 for all its bells and whistles didn't cut it for him. He said that the main reason he bought it was the camera which he further went on to add is nowhere near as good as his k800 becuase of the lag between pressing the button and taking the picture.

We did a few tests and the P1 seemed to focus a lot quicker and take a picture a lot quicker than the N95. I think if my friend was using the N95 as more than just a camera phone he wouldn't be too fussed, but since he moved from the k800 to the N95 simply because of the camera he seems to have regretted the decision.

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Posted: 2008-04-15 17:42
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Mm. My impression is that the hype about smartphones, and the entire "exclusive", and "glorious", and "pc in your pocket"- thing.. is mellowing a little bit. Simply because the "fifteen richest CEOs around the world" market isn't big enough to really sustain sales. You can see this with the n95 very clearly, because it was sold and bought initially on that it could do anything, and that it was the perfect unit. So more people and different people than you'd expect bought it. And then the return- figures came back, and the less hysterical users have had their say. And so..

The same happens even with the iPhone - there's a demand out there that it should incorporate "business" functions. I mean - who would predict that when they started flagging the iPhone half a year ago?
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Posted: 2008-04-15 18:04
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Yes, perhaps 'the kids' just want something to play music/video that's loud enough to piss everybody else off



TBH, I didn't quite understand what the iPhone's target market was, concidering, what was, in my oppinion, it's huge price tag, limited initial functionality, not to mention the restriction of network choice, I mean eye-candy only goes so far when you're out and about in the real world. There can only be so many Macfetishists around after all......... (stir-stir)

Back OnTopic, at least SE attempted to target the P1 at a specific niche in the market. To me though, they seem to lack a culture of excellence in their core philosophy, and this permeates through to their products. So no, the P1 is not a bad phone, but a good one....?

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Posted: 2008-04-16 00:57
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ok i read everything on this topic from 1 post till the end and here is what i want to say,i love p series i had p800 ,right now i have p990 and love it,i dont buy p1 becuse still no wi-fi with G or BG,no gps no many things wich i wanted unfortunately, i think nokia n95 is best phone right now and if next p series will not have this functions i will buy nokia

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Posted: 2008-04-16 02:14
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not the n95 classic, for sure...not really on par with the p1
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Posted: 2008-04-16 13:03
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the qwerty keyboard is truely amazing - i would probably still be happy using my m600 if the p1i hadden't turned up - the keyboard is that good.
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Posted: 2008-04-16 15:10
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First,for those who have posted that the P1 is not 3G, that is simply not true. I am posting this over a 3G connection on my P1i.

The P1 is a truly good device. The keyboard is amazing. I had my initial doubts, especially as I have large hands. But the keyboard works so well even at that!

The browser is good. I do not understand why anyone would say that it is slow. I use it extensively: banking, webhost administration, blog management, and I haven't noticed this 'slowness'.

The camera is a very good one too. Its not at the top of the list, but it certainly is not too far down.

I heartilly recomment this device for anyone looking for a QWERTY smartphone.
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Posted: 2008-04-16 16:06
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I have done some secret touch ups for P1i so it is not squeaky-case or plastic-feel and solid as a piece of rock. I also modified the HPM 82 plug so it fit snugly like a solid rock as well. Tell me an app better than Gdesk. GDesk is the wife of P1i.

P1i is like a portable computer for busy business personnels. It is like your girlfriend.

P1i is not clamshell so you no need to use 2 hands to make a phone call. You can drive and call at the same time (not recommended). You can also try driving and messaging at same time (kidding). If it is raining you can put it in a ziplock bag and go hiking and it is water proof this is the genius of non-clam shell.

You can surf the web and click unlike Nokia where you keep scrolling and tabbing.

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Posted: 2008-04-16 16:07
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Well.. on the slowness - what people are talking about is the combination of a very badly implemented IP stack, and relatively slow redraws in Opera. I think the way it works is that it downloads parts of the page, and then tries to draw it every couple of seconds or so. Which means that if you're getting a slow download, then the parser would work overtime, and the connections - unless they'd be given full priority - will typically drop out. And that would mean time- outs for every connection before something new happens - and that would be on top of sync- issues with the AP.

I've seen that on other OSs as well, so I guess it's a pretty common problem, that stable handling of lan- traffic is neglected. Not exactly unexpected that no one cares about whether things work on wifi (you know, noone gets paid a buck for every minute you're using it) - but that didn't help the ..comfortable.. pace on Opera mobile in the first place, anyway..
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Posted: 2008-06-15 09:39
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sry for no talking back on this post but since alot of people agreed it was a good phone i bought it a couple days ago and been playing around with it... but what are apps and games u cant live without with for the p1i!?! cause i need some more apps and games lol
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Posted: 2008-06-15 10:10
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wow yall had a lot to say... and it agreeable that yes the keyboard is like king of qwerty keyboards cause it so easy to use and you get used to it cause i got used to it after the first day....
mines built like a rock, no squeaky parts or anything...
but there seems to be a limit of apps and games... m2 card thing is somewhat diffucult to get the plastic thing out.... i also have a problem with the wlan .. in which it doesn't connect to my home internet... which pisses me off... cause it kind defeats the purpose of opera and trackid. etc....

P1i idk if it is at par or not with the N95 since it is somewhat different on many levels... but for reason like N95 being somewhat bulky and i didnt want to follow my brother and cousin since they both have N95... lol
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