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bavlondon2
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On 2008-03-18 11:55:55, Dogmann wrote:
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Actually if you read what i said i was very careful to point out that as individuals what is great for some isn't for others, and also dependant on what each of us has been exposed to will also effect what we find good or even great.
At the end of the day use what ever you are happy with but no one will ever convenience that low bit rates with stock headphones on a Phone will beat a dedicated player with high bit rates and a good set of headphones logic says this is just not possible.
Now whether a Sony MP3 player is better than any other or the Ipod is the best is always down to an individuals personal preference some may prefer a brand and even subconsciously this will make them prefer one set over another as long as you are happy with what you are using enjoy it. But then don't make absurd claims like all iPod's are rubbish just because you don't like them.
It's all well and good to have a preferred brand to look at first but just buying by brand is only cheating yourself of possibly a better option and really that goes for anything you buy.
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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2008-03-18 10:56 ]
Ive had a 5th Gen ipod as well as an ipod touch and was using them with decent Senhissers headphones. Neither compared to the Sony NW - S700. In terms of my listening pleasure Sony came out on top.
Generally this can be hotly debated but ultimatley its based on your own perception so if you think something better than the other then you will go for that.
I remember not to far back you mentioned the N95 8gb produced as good feeback as a 5th gen ipod but to be honest in my experience (and ive had both devices) neither match up to the Sony with noise cancelling technology.
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Dogmann
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@Manster
Sorry but i really fail to see how you can say iPod's don't have good battery life anything that will last me a day as far as i am concerned has sufficient battery life. As to charge any devcie last thing at night is hardly difficult or inconvenient i really fail to see why people get so hung up on their battery has to last days.
@Max
My previous headphones where the Sony EX71-SL's and yes they were quite good but they don't get close to my current Shure's the step up in quality is very noticeable.
@The paranoid
If i meant you i would of said so it was directed at everyone who makes absurd claims without any foundation other than it appears a personal bias. I have quite clearly said use what ever you feel suits you best if you think the Walkman player is best use it, i don't so use an iPod simple really neither of us wrong we just use what suits us best. There is never a definitive answer in any of these type of threads same as there is no ultimate mobile for all, or computer or anything else for that matter. The point is to see what others think and maybe expand how we decide what is best for us.
But SE and Sony are quite simply not always the best how ever much some of you want them to be and the proof of this is easy as if SE where the best they would be higher than 4th with under 10% market share and Sony would dominate every other field the sell in which they don't.
@Bav
I did indeed intially say that but i also on going back to the iPod one last time to check then reported that on further checking this was not so and had kept the iPod for listening to Music. I think this can be found in my N95 8gb review and was quite some time ago, as i always report things as i find them and don't twist them to fit a cause as cheating myself would be an incredibly foolish thing to do. Just as well i kept the iPod really as it is just so much better than a Mobile devcie and especially my E90 that isn't as good as the N95/N95 8gb.
Here you go Bav it is on page 1 of my N95 8GB review part two dated 27/12/2007 about one month on from getting the N95 8GB and can be read here.
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=161377&start=0
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On 2008-03-17 21:15:16, REO wrote:
On 2008-03-17 17:53:20, ramintop wrote:
are you serious? are you trying to say that apple ipod has a better sound quality than sony walkman?
@Ramintop
Yes ..... Absoloutely !!! If you noticed my opening statement.... I have been a Sony fan for many years. I recently purchased an iphone after noticing decreases in Sony products.
I still own several Sony products including phones and stand alone walkmans. And yes the quality of Apple does surpass Sony at this point in time.
Sometimes you have to be open to change and not be a fanatic, because this clouds your judgement and holds you back from experiencing great quality. Sony has taken a turn in the wrong direction, as a result the competition has stepped up and deliver products that are truly of better quality.
Don't be affraid of change. Change is good. It is what led me to Sony many years ago. Now I've changed once again, looking for better quality and I have found it.
When Apple slips, I will be looking for the next best thing. I am a true consumer with an open mind, and willing to put companies to the test.
Don't be led by adveritzing and great marketing. Put all theses companies to the test. Be honest with yourself, when a product is good admit to it.
Be loyal to yourself and not a brand or company !
lol im not loyal to sony, i have a cowon d2, but my words are based on audiophile sites that say that the sony walkmans have the warmest and richest sound, and all reviews of the nwza818 say its in a league of its own only based on the sound quality! |
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On 2008-03-18 18:10:00, manster wrote:
Apple IPOD sound's good but for me the Sony NWZ-A810 sounds better the only thing i dont like about Sony is that they don't have enough space but the battery life is better than the Apple IPOD's.
Sony
Pros: Great Battery Life
Sound's Great (For Me)
Cons: Small Screen
Not Enough Space
Apple IPOD's
Pros: Great Space
Cons: Not That Great Battery life
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I got a K850 (apparently it has full Walkman Audio drivers?) and compared to Ipod, it has a smoother sound but not the volume. I like mine LOUD and mostly listen to Slipknot, Deftones etc so a bit of distortion is welcome.
In saying that, I have an 80GB 5th gen and my missus has a 8GB NANO VIDEO and the 5th Gen sounds way different - better - definately louder too - and yea, both are on flat EQ and max volume limit.
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I have used many SE phones and currently use a Nokia N95. I have experienced iPods but havenever owned one. For me the sound out of all of my recent phones (SE and N95) are top notch and sound as good as a iPod as far as I can tell (not being an audiophile).
For me the main reason for not getting an ipod is so I dont have to carry 2 things around with me when I want to listen to music, as I always have my phone with me.
Why take two things out with me when I can just listen and go.
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metcard
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On 2008-03-18 18:10:00, manster wrote:
Apple IPOD sound's good but for me the Sony NWZ-A810 sounds better the only thing i dont like about Sony is that they don't have enough space but the battery life is better than the Apple IPOD's.
Sony
Pros: Great Battery Life
Sound's Great (For Me)
Cons: Small Screen
Not Enough Space
Apple IPOD's
Pros: Great Space
Cons: Not That Great Battery life
[ This Message was edited by: manster on 2008-03-18 17:11 ]
Nailed it.
I was looking into buying a dedicated MP3 player for a while now and the IPOD was first on my list, i.e until I used my cousins.
Wow.. for such an acclaimed product it sure as hell sounds like crap.
The 810Sony on the other hand is the best sounding portable player which i've ever owned, and I've owned quite a few.
And as a bonus they come with fairly decent earphones for when I don't feel like wearing huge cans on my head. |
bavlondon2
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Yep thats the same experience I had with my touch and Sony NW S700 mate. Sony may have fallen behind a bit in terms of looks on their devices but in terms of sound quality they are still up there as the best imo.
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On 2008-03-18 19:16:56, Dogmann wrote:
@Max
My previous headphones where the Sony EX71-SL's and yes they were quite good but they don't get close to my current Shure's the step up in quality is very noticeable.
Agree 100%. Shure are better, but more expensive. I've heard a lot of good reviews on them. I'm working up to spending the cash and probably will go with shure's 
I get an excellent result from the HPM-70 headphones (ex71 clones basically), and even better from the ep630's, which is basically why I haven't bothered spending more on headphones just yet - but you can always improve and now that I'm running 320Kbps it's probably worth upgrading again.
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manster
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@Dogmann
I'm not saying the batterylife is bad but against sony its no competition because for me when going on camping trips for like 3days 2nights or on a very long flight with those long stays on airport with connecting flights its just different people prefer different things and use there mp3 players differently. |
max_wedge
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I agree, and for something that doesn't take any kind of standard over the counter battery you are reliant on having that mains power supply available whenever you get low so battery longetivity is a lot more important.
Mind you I do alright with my phone which has to be charged everynight or so. For camping away from the car, I'm looking at getting a freeloader (a small solar panel device for charging batteries).
it works with ipod, as well as most mobile phones on the market.
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=167194
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QVGA
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I've tested all 3 very thoroughly and came to this conclusion:
Sony Walkman Phones provide average sound quality.
Sony Walkman Players offer superb sound quality.
I just want to puke all over the iPOD.
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Dogmann
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@manster @Max Wedge
To be honest if i was going to be away from a power source for long enough i would most probably invest in something like the IGo portable chargers or even a Power Monkey or Proporta devcie. Most of these carry enough power for a couple of charges and work with more than just one device.
Max the Shure EC2g's cost me £40 delivered which i really don't consider to be very expensive for what they are and were not much more than if i had got the next couple of steps up from the EX71-SL. Although i really liked the choice of short or long cable on the EX's the Shure's have a much thicker wire between the jack and ear phones and overall the quality and fit is excellent.
@QVGA
I really am amazed you found them that bad unless of course you used the headphones that ship with it them. But i wouldn't swap mine for anything else and neither would millions of happy users.
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Well i used one headphone for all of them. They are creative ones. I found the bass on iPOD to be severely lacking and weak. Add to that the in-ability of customizing the equalizer settings and its just not that pleasant.
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On 2008-03-20 21:52:23, QVGA wrote:
Well i used one headphone for all of them. They are creative ones. I found the bass on iPOD to be severely lacking and weak. Add to that the in-ability of customizing the equalizer settings and its just not that pleasant.
Same experience here. i tested the IPOD classic version with a Bose earphones (can't remember the model, sorry )
i'm not an audiophile nor an expert, but at least i can felt differences.
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