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The K850i Nightmare |
jazzyc
Joined: Sep 18, 2007
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well as much as i dont like to say it the k850i is the biggest piece of sh*t i have had! so many bugs and no signs of an update.
no wonder people cant give them away on here. You just goto look at the number of them coming up for sale. Not fetching a good price either.
come on SE do the right thing and get this sorted.
All that hard work with the k800 and k810 to buil a reputation and now its being p*ssed down the drain!
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Dogmann
Joined: Jan 29, 2006
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From: London England
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Hi all,
Even worse it's not just thread reporting problems look at the K850 firmware thread with people on there 3rd 4th or even 5th phone which is here
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=157121
I some how think this will also effect the 4th quarter profit now especially with the cost of so many handsets being sent back to both Networks and even the CPW.
What i personally find more worrying is the amount of so called flagship devices being made in China and then having not just firmware but also build quality issues some thing you never saw in an Ericsson phone ever.
Marc
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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2007-11-10 19:45 ] |
C905
Joined: Jul 08, 2007
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From: Denmark
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On 2007-11-10 20:45:15, Dogmann wrote:
Hi all,
Even worse it's not just thread reporting problems look at the K850 firmware thread with people on there 3rd 4th or even 5th phone which is here
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=157121
I some how think this will also effect the 4th quarter profit now especially with the cost of so many handsets being sent back to both Networks and even the CPW.
What i personally find more worrying is the amount of so called flagship devices being made in China and then having not just firmware but also build quality issues some thing you never saw in an Ericsson phone ever.
Marc
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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2007-11-10 19:45 ]
but you do also see it in nokia phones, if you havent forgot n95  |
jazzyc
Joined: Sep 18, 2007
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the way i feel about this phone at the moment is that i would drop it like a brick given the chance. I really cant think of one thing that it does better than my k810i. Terrible pics, keeps freezing between menu selections, poor build quality
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Sebby
Joined: Dec 12, 2004
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From: London, UK
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I have mixed feelings about it. I can see such great potential, but it's easy to get disheartened when it struggles to operate as a normal phone, let alone to take pictures.
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Dogmann
Joined: Jan 29, 2006
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From: London England
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@k850 successor
I never said the N95 didn't have any problems and some had loose sliders or screens and the Camera needed improvements i have never said any different. But just how quickly did Nokia both release new firmware and rectify the manufacturing problems and fixed the quality issues.
I admit some seem to have got good K850's with no problems but far too many have problems for a Flagship device and the Firmware has yet to be released and i can't fix build issues either. Just read what your fellow SE fans are saying and what number phone there on and some have even said they have had enough and are very disappointed. The reason Nokia users don't worry is they know there will be new firmware quickly and that it will resolve these type of bugs. Where as of sorry but SE's firmware support has been some what lacking even it getting a Vista PC Suite.
How ever you want to look at it this is not the way to treat your users that pay premium prices for a flag ship product or take out contracts for it and it fails to deliver. We are not talking annoying little bugs read what some people are saying and yes again the N95 had some now where near as bad as some have experienced with K850 though, hardware failures, crashing Java and no longer having access to messages or apps.
I am getting a N95 8GB so will see have that fares against the W960 when that arrives. As i just discovered there is a lot more to he N95 8GB then just the larger screen and Ram but also it is the first Symbian to give Demand Paging which means even greater speed of the OS and apps but also more RAM efficient. The N85 8GB boots to ready in 22 seconds compared to N95 35 seconds, sounds good to me.
Marc
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JiSm
Joined: Nov 08, 2007
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From: New Zealand
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Dont know if anyone cares really but I have been testing the photo settings last night and found the best pics for me came out on ISO400 with Red Eye reduction Flash. I didnt get one dark picture either. If I use normal flash then 40% were dark (on ISO400 and about 20% on ISO 200 and 100). Im always going to use ISO400 and red eye reduction flash at night now.
Maybe someone else could test the same to confirm if I just got lucky? (I did ensure I was "correct" with holding the phone.
"Back in the land of the long white cloud!" |
numb
Joined: Feb 07, 2005
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ISO400, RedEye reduction setting seems to work allright, just tried 10 pictures in low light conditions, all came out fine. |
A L 3 X
Joined: Dec 20, 2006
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On 2007-11-11 16:50:42, JiSm wrote:
Dont know if anyone cares really but I have been testing the photo settings last night and found the best pics for me came out on ISO400 with Red Eye reduction Flash. I didnt get one dark picture either. If I use normal flash then 40% were dark (on ISO400 and about 20% on ISO 200 and 100). Im always going to use ISO400 and red eye reduction flash at night now.
Maybe someone else could test the same to confirm if I just got lucky? (I did ensure I was "correct" with holding the phone.
mine still cae out dark....its brand new and could it be because i havent yet taken off the selophane cover thingy on the back which could affect the light sensor or something?
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Hurst
Joined: Jun 16, 2006
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From: Washington, DC. USA
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What really astounds me is how these companies are not scrambling to address reliability issues in the wake of the iphone. Granted its sales are not of the same caliber, mostly due to the price point, but after the lay consumer buys an iphone and has a product that is intuitive and supremely stable, how could they ever go to a SE or a Nokia that has firmware issues out of the gate and brickability constantly hanging around its head.
The days of cellphone companies selling hollow features without backbone realiability is over.
PC makes found out the hard way as they skimped on motherboards and RAM while they allowed Apple to swoop in and steal all of those frustrated customers.
SE and Nokia better get their act together, or they will simply be the old dinosaurs in the room. |
A L 3 X
Joined: Dec 20, 2006
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On 2007-11-11 23:56:51, Hurst wrote:
What really astounds me is how these companies are not scrambling to address reliability issues in the wake of the iphone. Granted its sales are not of the same caliber, mostly due to the price point, but after the lay consumer buys an iphone and has a product that is intuitive and supremely stable, how could they ever go to a SE or a Nokia that has firmware issues out of the gate and brickability constantly hanging around its head.
The days of cellphone companies selling hollow features without backbone realiability is over.
PC makes found out the hard way as they skimped on motherboards and RAM while they allowed Apple to swoop in and steal all of those frustrated customers.
SE and Nokia better get their act together, or they will simply be the old dinosaurs in the room.
doubt it considering the amount of k850i's sold compared to iphones.....i went to CPW the day it was released and there was 1 other person in the store but me....looking at PAYG phones, which is kinda surprising considering the hype with the iPhone....yet when i asked about k850i they had been sold out for a while
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driftmania
Joined: Mar 07, 2006
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From: California, USA
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Who cares if they are sold out? The point is that they are buggy as hell and there are still no new updates for it yet. |
Sebby
Joined: Dec 12, 2004
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@A L 3 X
My experience was the same at the weekend. Two different CPWs said the iPhone launch had been a flop (in terms of what had been expected). Both still had stock, and they weren't busy with iPhone customers. Of course, this doesn't mean it'll be a flop.
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A L 3 X
Joined: Dec 20, 2006
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On 2007-11-12 00:14:43, driftmania wrote:
Who cares if they are sold out? The point is that they are buggy as hell and there are still no new updates for it yet.
well when bought now there is actually often a newer firmware on the newer batches although older batches cant be updated to it yet
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sype
Joined: Oct 25, 2007
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I had the problem with the flash not working correctly and getting black photos.
I tried turning off the AF light in the cameras settings, and it now works fine just like my k800i. done about 10 test shots, 100% success.
give it a try let me know how you get on. |
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Posted: 2007-11-10 20:39
