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Dogmann
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Posted: 2007-10-29 15:20
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@>500

As you asked why

" Also, you mention some are blinded by their love and devotion to . I am curious, why does this affect you?"

Well basically because it makes a logical discussion impossible as people are arguing on an emotional level and ignore the facts.

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Posted: 2007-10-29 15:27
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N81 is suppose to be selling for 350 euros.
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Posted: 2007-10-29 15:29
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On 2007-10-29 15:20:44, Dogmann wrote:
@>500

As you asked why

" Also, you mention some are blinded by their love and devotion to . I am curious, why does this affect you?"

Well basically because it makes a logical discussion impossible as people are arguing on an emotional level and ignore the facts.

Marc


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here we go again......
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Posted: 2007-10-29 16:12
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why u always make SE that bad?


No one is making se bad,But se itself is making itself bad,
with poorly designed phones, worst build quality and high price


well lately, or let me say this thing strated since last year
ive seen many ppl complaining about SE and their phones


SE has not being quite well for few years, so disappointed
se fans are complaining i think


it sound like nothing will make them happy,
they always compare SE with nokia, and worse than this
they compare 2 different type of phones


If Se makes good phones with reasobale price,and good
build quality will make them happy i feel


like last one, W910 vs N81
who is that insane who will make such comparision??
a midd java class phone, with high end smart phone??
huuuuuge different between those phone, why they are
made, and wats their target..


The comparision is based on price i think why get a low
specification phone when u get more value for money
for the same price range phone ???

People look at value for money, is it worth paying "this
much" for this phone
or is it better to get phone which has better functionality
at similar price


also , why always compare to nokia??
why not motorola or samsung and LG
which i think its more logical , cuz those companies are fighting
with each other, and they left nokia alone.
nokia is the only company now who drown the market with their high end
phones.


They compare se with nokia because most of them
use nokia,
As nokia is the market leader


SE is far better than moto and LG
with samsung, i think they r equal , except for the new G800
which gave samsung one step ahead..


Well how did u come to this conclusion
Then how come Samsung, Motorola has better market share compared to SE,what's the use when SE makes good phone , when it does not sell.

here's a fact on Q3 Global Mobile No's

Samsung and Nokia were the star performers in the global mobile phone market for the third quarter of 2007, according to Strategy Analytics. Global mobile phone shipments grew a modest 12 percent year-over-year, to reach 285 million units in Q3 2007, in the latest analyst report. As Sony Ericsson and Motorola cede market to Samsung and Nokia respectively, Apple looks ahead to the first test of iPhone appeal outside the U.S.

“Total global cell phone shipments remain relatively sluggish, at just 12 percent annual growth, but Samsung and Nokia continue to surge ahead. Samsung is the fastest-growing top-five brand, with 47 percent annual shipment growth. Meanwhile, Nokia has easily the highest operating margin among all megavendors, with a 22 percent rate in its handset division.”

Bonny Joy, Analyst at Strategy Analytics, added, “The rise of Samsung and Nokia is coming partly at the expense of Sony Ericsson and Motorola. Samsung is rapidly picking up share in 3G feature phones,


i think we should give SE some credit, for the perfection of the menue
which ppl always complain to change, WHY U LIKE TO MAKE IT DIFFICULT??
just for the sake of a change??


Wht credit should be given to SE,Please list.when rivals are introducing
Gps,engage gaming,optical zoom and upping their tech.you
say SE should be given credit, and that to for a menu which is been just
as old and being just copied into every SE phone .pity


the CAM , sometime i think its either me blind or other ppl just have something wrong with their eyes, cuz after final releaze i see great pics from SE , K850 , NO WAY nokia can be better
but still ppl complain..

So much people cant be blind,K850 camera has been beaten to death
against rivals.Its just ur affinity to SE that makes u blind


i really think we should rethink about wat SE is givving us

yes, they have given us poor quality phones with high price,and every body is switching from se to rivals,and those who havent are rethinking
is it worth buying an SE phone.............

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Posted: 2007-10-29 16:22
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@arunvc
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Posted: 2007-10-29 16:40
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@arunav

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Great explanation and reply indeed *thumbs up*...
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Posted: 2007-10-29 17:32
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"and every body is switching from se to rivals,and those who havent are rethinking
is it worth buying an SE phone.............
"

very well said. I am now using LG viewty.


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Posted: 2007-10-29 18:55
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@jemuel

Two things firstly i was answering a question i had been asked so i really don't get your snide comment, and secondly was it really necessary to quote a post just two post's above? Please show some consideration for your fellow ESATO users many of whom visit ESATO over WAP and really don't need every post to quote a previous post which both slows down their browsing and uses more Data.

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Posted: 2007-10-29 21:17
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On 2007-10-29 14:53:43, >500 wrote:

On 2007-10-29 14:37:56, chowchow wrote:
@bahraini,

I think its reasonable to compare N81 and W910 if we talk about the pricing.... since W910 is more expensive than N81.


the w910 is cheaper, no? Looking on ebay, online shops etc. w910 is a fair bit cheaper?



well, the very first online price that I saw for W910 and N81 was 500USD and 450, respectively.

Now I've checked the e-bay prices:

W910: USD440
N81:USD490

Now its a different story.

I might be wrong that N81 is more expensive but judging by the way both devices are priced online by different suppliers, I can safely say that both somewhat belong to the same price range.

In the end, IMO N81 is better in terms of price/features/looks ratio (cannot comment on the performance yet).

=)

http://cgi.ebay.ph/BRAND-NEW-[....]eNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.ph/NEW-SonyEr[....]eNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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Posted: 2007-10-29 22:49
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Some people dislike for being behind nokia, yet many many more people love apple and the I-phone and think it is better then everything that and Nokia have put together!

I say and Nokia fans unite and burn apple fans!
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Posted: 2007-10-29 23:01
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Plankgaton wont take this thread lightly he will take it as an offence!
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Posted: 2007-10-29 23:02
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On 2007-10-29 23:01:35, KingBooker5 wrote:
Plankgaton wont take this thread lightly he will take it as an offence!

That makes two of us.
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Posted: 2007-10-29 23:04
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On 2007-10-29 15:27:17, QVGA wrote:
N81 is suppose to be selling for 350 euros.


are you kidding me? is the prize so low for so many features
Damn
Bhavv
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Posted: 2007-10-29 23:07
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Like I have said before, I do like the N95's features, but not the looks and I dont need GPS.

K850i I love the looks and its specified well enough. Most of all though, I get it free XD
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Posted: 2007-10-30 00:06
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On 2007-10-29 15:27:17, QVGA wrote:
N81 is suppose to be selling for 350 euros.


Not in Europe. Price examples (source http://www.pricerunner.se/)

Sweden:
N81 431
W910 400 EUR

Denmark:
N81 455 EUR
W910 417

Germany:
N81 399 EUR
W910 356 EUR

France:
N81 400 EUR
W910 405 EUR

Poland:
N81 415 EUR
W910 377 EUR

[ This Message was edited by: Arne Anka on 2007-10-29 23:07 ]
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