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Nipsen
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Posted: 2007-10-24 14:14
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Mm. So for a walkman- phone with an easy gui, the w910 is an alternative.

http://www.a site/reviews/sony-ericsson-w910i-review/

Unless you want wifi, uiq and touchscreen. In other words, the w960 and n81 are at least actual smartphones. But unless you're going to use any of the functions and apps on s60 or uiq, there are better phones available for that price.
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Posted: 2007-10-25 02:03
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On 2007-10-24 13:50:48, Nitro Fan wrote:

On 2007-10-24 13:20:50, Nipsen wrote:

On 2007-10-24 12:01:20, aasimtom wrote:
(...)W960i is not a true competitor to the iphone but it is as i mentioned an upgrade to the W950i and thats it. SE will not sit quite because Nokia and Apple is taking a large of amount of markete share not just because of good phones but as long as with the state of the art technology implemented int those phone. We will definatily hear an announcment from SE a so called iphone killer in the first quarter of 2008 in the form of W1i or W3i i guess. If SE doesn't come up with this in the near future, then ppl would get inclined to Iphone and the newly upcoming touchscreen from Nokia (Nokia's Iphone killer), which could lead SE to a disaster.

Sure. But what are they really offering that puts them above - for instance - the w960? As I said, the actual differences between 180Mhz and 320 Mhz on a flash- based file- system is not exactly tremendous. So until we get better batteries, the high- end units will utilize various power- save features, while attempting not to compromise quality too much. Even if, on a walkman phone, there should be some sort of focus on sound and music- player functions. And the w960 doesn't quite offer that - it's the same as usual, and an upgraded version of the w950, with better ram and bigger storage.

So I ask you - what does the iPhone, the n95 or the n81 offer for audiophiles that the w960 doesn't? What about the iPhone killers? What do they offer that's actually new?


The Iphone it seems to me, is being sold purely on its looks, touch screen & it's Ipod lineage. what is to kill? it offers less than most of the other devices
and i personaly think the 30g and above Ipods are old tech anyway flash memeory is by far the best. As for being tied to Itunes there is not enough space here for me to list the reasons not to use it.

not a big iphone fan just because but i admit. it first to have a touchscreen that works like butter smooth and really can make your experience pleasant. if only it has more indepth pda functions and feature to reallly have cool apps, i think iphone is a great phone to me even if it doesnt feature a hspda freq. yet. heck its better than surfing thru gprs on my p990 in remote locations. sheeeesh


iphone is i think definitely worth the penny. but that is just my opinion.
nokia needs to make a n95 refresh w/ better looking design and a touchscreen, im set.
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Posted: 2007-10-25 02:11
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I tend to believe that the SE is no longer the SE that used to be and becoming more like nokia. Mind you, thats really nothing wrong with that and the core objective of making more profits. But the so-called high end models churning out so so slowly is NOT meeting users' expectation (at least mine ). Even UIQ 3.0 (which i do like pretty much esp for moderate users like myself) failed miserably in many aspects.
I think i have spent enough of my money on SE, time to try WM6 and HTC

Good luck and cheers to all
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Posted: 2007-10-25 16:05
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What a silly review from M-R ! donno what do they really want? i think this review is missing some objectivity regarding SE ... i still think the w960i is a gr8 package ( the gr8 uiq3.0 + 8gega + 3.2 cam + wifi + a loudest speakers then the w950i + walkman 3.0) i dont care 4 any other sophisticated details ! this phone has everything needed by a normal customer !
i only admit that im not satisfied wiz the live pics... still the w950i is the greatest concerning the look side ... no way to compare the w960i wiz n81 or n95 ... and even if the uiq3.0 is not a new software from SE i think its more more satisfyin then the nokia N series ! so plz stop nagging :S
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Posted: 2007-10-25 16:07
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well said chadi.
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Posted: 2007-10-25 18:34
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On 2007-10-25 16:05:28, chadi_1984 wrote:
What a silly review from M-R ! donno what do they really want?

Something that puts the phone ahead of the other uiq and walkman phones.

You're definitively right it's still the best walkman smart- phone out there, though. But it still doesn't offer anything truly new. So it beats the iPhone and the n81 on everything that matters - so what?
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Posted: 2007-10-26 02:52
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hehe. Check out the n81 review. rofl:
http://www.intomobile.com/200[....]y-for-too-little-hardware.html
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Posted: 2007-10-26 12:02
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hehe thx Nipsen some people here should be again calm & happy lol
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Posted: 2007-10-26 12:06
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On 2007-10-25 16:05:28, chadi_1984 wrote:
What a silly review from M-R ! donno what do they really want? i think this review is missing some objectivity regarding SE ... i still think the w960i is a gr8 package ( the gr8 uiq3.0 + 8gega + 3.2 cam + wifi + a loudest speakers then the w950i + walkman 3.0) i dont care 4 any other sophisticated details ! this phone has everything needed by a normal customer !
i only admit that im not satisfied wiz the live pics... still the w950i is the greatest concerning the look side ... no way to compare the w960i wiz n81 or n95 ... and even if the uiq3.0 is not a new software from SE i think its more more satisfyin then the nokia N series ! so plz stop nagging :S

normal customers dont spend 700$ on a phone.
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Posted: 2007-10-26 12:11
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sorry whats $700 qvga?
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Posted: 2007-10-26 14:47
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On 2007-10-26 12:02:36, chadi_1984 wrote:
hehe thx Nipsen some people here should be again calm & happy lol

Yeah, I guess you're right.. hm. I think we should have more SE fanboys, though. Like: "oh, no! The n81 doesn't have quadband, it's a slap in the face to the customers, and a serious lack with the device, and this will tarnish Nokia forever! I'm going to buy Soony Eericcsson, because they always make be- ter devices, because I feel like they are better when I touch the phones. Yes, this is the final nail in the coffin for Nokia, people, better buy a tamaguchi! Better value for your money, Nokia sucks, and always will!".
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Posted: 2007-10-26 14:50
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On 2007-10-26 12:11:31, >500 wrote:
sorry whats $700 qvga?


the starting price of W960. Its either 650 or 700.
Nipsen
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Posted: 2007-10-27 01:49
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Soo... when is Nokia going to come up with some specs for the n81 on actual playback time for mp3s at a set bitrate?
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Posted: 2007-10-27 14:11
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On 2007-10-26 14:50:00, QVGA wrote:

On 2007-10-26 12:11:31, >500 wrote:
sorry whats $700 qvga?


the starting price of W960. Its either 650 or 700.



how can you be so sure it will be this? every one thought the k850, p1 and w910 would be $xxx, but they weren't the correct when released. Dont believe reviewers, they dont set the prices! Even pre-orders, pre-order prices change all the time....
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Posted: 2007-11-02 21:32
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For all those that said the nokia n-81 offered more bang for your buck
http://www.mobile-review.com/review/nokia-n81-en.shtml

Impressions

The reception quality provided by the N81 is up to Nokia’s standard, nothing to worry about here. The volume of ring tones, all thanks to its stereo-speakers, is over the roof, which automatically makes the N81 one of the market’s loudest devices. The vibro alert is not particularly easy to feel due to the phone’s bulky casing.

The 8 Gb edition retails in Europe for 430 Euro, while the junior model will set you back more than 360 Euro – these prices may vary by region, though. At the same time, speaking of the Russian market, the Nokia N81’s memory-card version sells for 600 USD, and its 8 Gb sibling will be yours for 740-800 USD. Obviously, once they have taken all the cream, the prices will be knocked down to the recommended 500 USD and 640 USD respectively, but will take some time, so expect the price cut no earlier than after the New Year.

The N81 is a mixed bag – on the one hand, it is a youth-orientated device with all the essentials of one inside, but it comes with a very mediocre camera and no business-savvy features onboard (applications in the first place, but you can install them manually). Sonic experience-wise, the N81 is quite a decent performer, which is indicated by our RMAA tests; unfortunately the set of headphones it comes packaged with is not as good. Its gaming department is yet to emerge, and when the N-Gage service will go online the Nokia N81 will one of a slew of offerings with knack for games.

In some ways, this handset reminds me of the Nokia 3250 – similarly positioned towards the youth, quite moderate sales (‘one million units sold’ was Nokia’s PR, nothing more to it – other models were selling better back then). This phone lacks charisma to become a bestseller with its design alone, and its feature pack is not as fantastic as they claim. On balance, it is an average solution, that can’t make our mouths watering, or make us throw it back into the box – it is somewhat between these two extremes. This means the N81 scores a “B” and if you are not expecting it do somersaults, you will be quite content with it.

No PDA functions and a crappy camera. Sorry not for me
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