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myth_old
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On 2007-08-13 18:19:45, Lisa@CPS wrote:
but the OS reports that value for a ROM drive, so SMP displays that. The correct value can be obtained by adding the sizes of individual directories on the Z: drive.
..whereas dedicated file managers like LCG X-plore show the correct value.
So, this might be rather a matter of false recognition, limited access or whatever, than the os, reporting a false value.
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dedicated file managers like LCG X-plore show the correct value. Not exactly. X-plore can not do it either. In its detail window for drive Z: X-plore just sums up the sizes of directories and displays that. For the protected folders (Z:\\Sys and Z:\\private) it counts 0 bytes, which is incorrect, therefore the total occupied value is false as well. The true occupied size of the Z: drive is what X-plore reports plus the size of the two above-mentioned folders. The total size is not ever reported by X-plore to be other than 0 bytes. It's not their fault, that's all what can be done.
So, this might be rather a matter of false recognition, limited access or whatever, than the os, reporting a false value. The OS does report zero for both the total and occupied size of the Z: drive, that is a fact. Programs can replace the latter value by some more realistic number, like X-plore does, but that's all.
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myth_old
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So only the sys and private folders are being reported as zero, not the entire drive.
Anyway, thanks for the info Lisa..
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michael the mage
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On 2007-08-13 13:00:40, Lisa@CPS wrote:
And, why does its value vary between phones? We know that even less. What really counts is the absolute (not percentage!) amount of free available RAM. It would be interesting to see if a firmware change, that results in a change of the "ROM size", results in a change of available RAM, under the very same conditions.
[ This Message was edited by: Lisa@CPS on 2007-08-13 12:04 ]
Correct, it does change! I have stated that earlier in my posts! I did it and now the end result is that under all and indentical conditions, the newly flashed/changed phone has about 1.2 to 2 MB more RAM available, in SMP and TaskManager!
And it stays that way!
So for me, this change to Netherland was worth it.
However, we have to wait and see if the newest fw upgrade that is not yet available for Netherland, will change back to 59/5. Hope NOT 
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So only the sys and private folders are being reported as zero, not the entire drive. Not really. The total and free space of the entire Z: drive is indeed always reported by the OS as zero. Folder sizes are not reported by the OS at all, but a program can sum up their contents using a recursive method and report that. This is what X-plore (presumably) does. However, it can not add the size of the Sys and private folders, because those are completely blocked by the OS. Therefore, the reported value is less than the true value (although it surely represents more info than just showing zero). Hopefully it is clear now.
Back to the original topic:
the newly flashed/changed phone has about 1.2 to 2 MB more RAM available
That's indeed good news, although it is still a question how frequently this method can be used in practice to "produce" more available RAM.
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michael the mage
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It has to be done only once! There is no new fw anymore. So one can be stuck either with 59 RAM or 61MB RAM.... forever
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makbil
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On 2007-08-13 16:09:59, myth® wrote:
Yes, the language support for T9, letters and virtual keyboard remains, even after format, but the menu languages are being deleted during initial setup.
Otherwise they would appear in the list of available languages.
OK. You are right. In fact that is why the first boot takes so long.
P990i: A mistake, a curse and a disgrace  So I lowered my expectations and settled for a P1i. I couldn't keep my expectations so low for a long time so now I have an HTC Touch HD |
michael the mage
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Is there anyone with World1 and firmware still R9F / org R5 ? If so, kindly check your RAM / ROM via SMP. Is it 59 or 61 ?
I am trying to figure out if this is related to some CDAs only, like in my case Netherland, or, fw version.
Because if its fw, then the world1 with R5 organizer should also have 61/3!
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myth_old
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On 2007-08-12 11:35:20, makbil wrote:
There are a few other things that SMP tells us:
Model Number: 503DE69F
Machine UID: xxxxx285
The same here..
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Draxx
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Am I the only one with 62Mb RAM and 2Mb ROM? |
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On 2007-08-15 10:31:46, Draxx wrote:
Am I the only one with 62Mb RAM and 2Mb ROM?
It looks like that so far! What are your specs?
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Draxx
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Orange UK branded R4B03 (I think). R8A hardware.
Also I have the record for uptime, had to switch P990 off for flight, uptime was 39 days  |
michael the mage
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Okay, come on people.... anybody else with different CDA and 61 RAM ? If Netherland is not updating soon, I have to change again
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makbil
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I had my friend check the info on remote control 
Using R5A17 he has RAM user: 61 MB on CDA/67
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michael the mage
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Great, thanks. Do you know if he wants to update.... soon? And if so, could you ask him BEFORE he connects to SEUS, to go to the SonyEricsson folder under Updates: 13740270 and move it out of there! If he doesnt want to delete, just move it somewhere else for this.
Then when he connects to SEUS, the serivce will REBUILD this 13740270 Folder and only the files of that current update are in there!
Finally, I or perhaps some others too, would need the few files all under 1KB. Then I could do the change and then upgrade.
Regards
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So I lowered my expectations and settled for a P1i. I couldn't keep my expectations so low for a long time so now I have an HTC Touch HD 
