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QVGA
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On 2007-05-09 14:45:41, 786KBR wrote:
On 2007-05-09 14:30:40, DragonEye wrote:
they're all lcd screen...
the differenence is nokia isn't using a hard screen protector.....
if you took the housing off of any phone.. and turned it on and stuck your finger on the screen they would all discolor like that
But we have all agreed to some extent that what you say is true.
My question again is why is it the the colour is not as alive as other LCD wit hard screen protectors?? There is a big difference.
I actually believe its a normal high res LCD screen and no TFT in it. If that makes any sense.
Because they dont use the same screens!! Is that too hard for you to understand? SE produced a better screen thats why their colors are more alive. Its got nothing to do with hard screen or whatever.
And for your 911, my N71 depicts the same behavior, press it and you'll notice all the color mashing.!!!
Basically you didnt even know that all mobiles used LCD thats why you kept on saying N95 uses and LCD!!! | |
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JK
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On 2007-05-09 15:32:01, QVGA wrote:
On 2007-05-09 14:45:41, 786KBR wrote:
On 2007-05-09 14:30:40, DragonEye wrote:
they're all lcd screen...
the differenence is nokia isn't using a hard screen protector.....
if you took the housing off of any phone.. and turned it on and stuck your finger on the screen they would all discolor like that
But we have all agreed to some extent that what you say is true.
My question again is why is it the the colour is not as alive as other LCD wit hard screen protectors?? There is a big difference.
I actually believe its a normal high res LCD screen and no TFT in it. If that makes any sense.
Because they dont use the same screens!! Is that too hard for you to understand? SE produced a better screen thats why their colors are more alive. Its got nothing to do with hard screen or whatever.
And for your 911, my N71 depicts the same behavior, press it and you'll notice all the color mashing.!!!
Basically you didnt even know that all mobiles used LCD thats why you kept on saying N95 uses and LCD!!!
 For my 911??
Well whatever it is, the N95 screen is LCD like my screen and TV!!
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QVGA
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On 2007-05-09 15:38:21, 786KBR wrote:
On 2007-05-09 15:32:01, QVGA wrote:
On 2007-05-09 14:45:41, 786KBR wrote:
On 2007-05-09 14:30:40, DragonEye wrote:
they're all lcd screen...
the differenence is nokia isn't using a hard screen protector.....
if you took the housing off of any phone.. and turned it on and stuck your finger on the screen they would all discolor like that
But we have all agreed to some extent that what you say is true.
My question again is why is it the the colour is not as alive as other LCD wit hard screen protectors?? There is a big difference.
I actually believe its a normal high res LCD screen and no TFT in it. If that makes any sense.
Because they dont use the same screens!! Is that too hard for you to understand? SE produced a better screen thats why their colors are more alive. Its got nothing to do with hard screen or whatever.
And for your 911, my N71 depicts the same behavior, press it and you'll notice all the color mashing.!!!
Basically you didnt even know that all mobiles used LCD thats why you kept on saying N95 uses and LCD!!!
For my 911??
Well whatever it is, the N95 screen is LCD like my screen and TV!!
So is the N71. Infact you can add N90 and N93 to that list too.
and that 911 was a typo
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BobaFett
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i saw the mi3 on n73, it was very impressive. well, imo the screen quality counts at pix and videos ( soemtimes wathcing tv ), but u dont have to forget, that the quality of the video depends on the format and right settings as well. so if it is, even 6233 or w810 can offer u really good moments.
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michka
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I am about sure that neither se nor nokia build their screens. They just buy them from LCD making companies.
As for LCD and TFT, just a bit more explanations:
LCD means, as was already mentionned, Liquid Crystal Display. Why? Well simply because the active medium is a liquid which has some properties of a crystal. The one we are interested in is the fact that the molecules constituting the liquid have a tendency to align themselves in the same direction. Now, what is even more interesting is that by applying an electric field to the molecules, they loose their alignment. And they don't transmit the same quantity of light depending if they are aligned or not.
There are many different molecules that have these properties, or similar ones like changing the polarization direction of the light. So, many different types of LCD have been marketed, like TN (twisted nematics), STN (super-twisted nematics, etc.
Now, how is the electric field applied to the liquid crystal? The simplest way is to enclose the liquid between two sheets of glass, one with a grid of horizontal electrodes and the other with a grid of vertical electrodes. Of course the electrodes are made of very very thin layers of metal, so that they are transparent. By applying a voltage difference between one horizontal and one vertical electrode, the molecules lying at the intersection of the two will be submitted to an electrical field and change their alignment, and finally their transparency.
Technology evolving to increase contrast, power consumption and the like, the new modern LCD screens use a thin film of transistors (TFT) arranged in a grid, instead of electrodes. One transistor per pixel per color in fact.
So, LCD means the type of material that forms the image, whereas TFT means the way an electrical field is applied to the material.
To push things a little further, it is the parasitic condensator of each transistor that generates the field. A diode also has such a parasitic condensator, and so some LCDs are of the TFD type (thin film diode).
Thank you for reading me down to here. 
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michka
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By the way, the major difference between a 262K and a 16M color display will be seen in large surfaces of one color with a smooth variation of the intensity (the sky for example) because even on a 16M screen, there are only 256 levels of intensity for one particular color. And this the eye can see.
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JK
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So is the N71. Infact you can add N90 and N93 to that list too.
and that 911 was a typo
U notice they all clamshells? All the screens are protected like the 9300 and 9500, the N95 is not protected.
@ Michka
Thanks for the info! I think SE gets the screen from SONY and Nokio from Sanyo. 
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bodum
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just so you know, I believe that it is general consensus that Nokia uses better displays than SE as of the present generation. |
BobaFett
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thats for sure, no offence for se, but its fact. just wondering, whs sony doesnt offer some screens for se?
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maggflodd
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On 2007-05-09 16:57:12, bodum wrote:
just so you know, I believe that it is general consensus that Nokia uses better displays than SE as of the present generation.
bodum, I think that "general consensus" might gather outside your home with torches...ready to save you from the dark side
but seriously, even "older" generations weren't quite that clear-cut, I believe... Depended on your needs where you stood: the k750 had a nice screen at the time (all those "ages ago"), but it was a bit crap outside in the sun...while at the same time the foggy 6680 screen was at least visible in the brightest condition! The e61 16m-screen combines amazing crispy-sharpness with total usability in extremely sunny conditions (and for the battery's sake I have mine always on lowest brightness setting!)
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JK
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On 2007-05-09 16:59:12, BobaFett wrote:
thats for sure, no offence for se, but its fact. just wondering, whs sony doesnt offer some screens for se?
I have alot of Nokios, the main thing is they dont use "standard" equipment like  does. Their screens are made to fit the phone, while uses standard size screens for all the phones, K800 and W850, K750 and W710 etc etc they do the same with the cameras, the K750 and W810 etc and the crap 2MP with no autofocus.
Its kinda wierd coz Im a big VW fan and they doing the same thing, using the same engines throughout the range ie GTi/A3 2.0T, 3.2l R32/Jetta/Passat/A3 3.2/toureg etc etc etc
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maggflodd
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@786... ,
or Barbie dolls...same couple of dolls, different dresses (:lol: that's who they all learned from...)
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DragonEye
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On 2007-05-09 14:45:41, 786KBR wrote:
But we have all agreed to some extent that what you say is true.
My question again is why is it the the colour is not as alive as other LCD wit hard screen protectors?? There is a big difference.
I actually believe its a normal high res LCD screen and no TFT in it. If that makes any sense.
that's like asking why the cmos cam in k790a is different then the cmos cam in the n73....
On 2007-05-09 14:58:44, bodum wrote:
as far as I know, the only phone without such a layer of protection is the Nokia 6131. so it's not true to say that Nokia phones do not have the protective layer.
[ This Message was edited by: bodum on 2007-05-09 14:05 ]
the n73, e61i and n95 are all like that too....
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BobaFett
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@786 u mean, basically the same screen for w810 and k800, at least cyber shot fones would deserbve better screens imo
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QVGA
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On 2007-05-09 17:11:03, DragonEye wrote:
On 2007-05-09 14:45:41, 786KBR wrote:
But we have all agreed to some extent that what you say is true.
My question again is why is it the the colour is not as alive as other LCD wit hard screen protectors?? There is a big difference.
I actually believe its a normal high res LCD screen and no TFT in it. If that makes any sense.
that's like asking why the cmos cam in k790a is different then the cmos cam in the n73....
On 2007-05-09 14:58:44, bodum wrote:
[ This Message was edited by: bodum on 2007-05-09 14:05 ]
the n73, e61i and n95 are all like that too....
[ This Message was edited by: DragonEye on 2007-05-09 16:13 ]
or like asking why a certain toyota with ABS doesnt skid where as a honda without ABS skids.
haha, how lame of me!!
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