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W800i is made in only China? |
Quintessence
Joined: Mar 22, 2003
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Just because phones are made in China or asia doesn't necessarily make it sub standard or of a lower build quality. Both machinery and labour capital in asia have increased dramatically over the last decade, and is comparable to Europe or Western manufacturers.
The only difference it the cost of working capital being lower. It doesn't mean the workers/ quality control are inferior at all.
It's public conception that all products made in China are dodgy (Those unbranded junk don't help their image) but overall if its done a quality manufacturer it'll be the same product.
In fact, I bet if you got one phone made in Asia and one made in Sweden and took off the labels you could not tell which was made in where. |
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goldenface
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I agree with you Quintessence. I don't think it matters where these are made as I am sure they will ensure the highest standard wherever they are made.
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sailaab
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@BobaFett- Could be. My memory is slippin on me as I have got siblings who care for it now. As for the MiC factor- its not that I've nt used. Still have Sony prods that were made in Indonesian, Thai, Sg or China. An odd incident (and affirmation of others) makes one to doubt. Being in India we do have a lot of imports from ASEAN etc. Infact my Sony KP- E41MN11 has Malay/Sg components & did had issues. BtW- is User 75558 related to you BobaFett? Check that profile/ UserName ;)
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jmcomms
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Aren't the phones still made by Flextronics? The company that, by their very name, are designed to be flexible and switch production from plant to plant to meet demand. The demand for the K750 and W800 has been phenomenal. In August, the K750i was the UK's top selling phone. The launch of the advertising campaign for the W800 was delayed a month because SE knew they wouldn't be able to meet demand.
I've been on factory tours with Motorola, Nokia and Samsung and the industrial equipment (in all these cases made by Fuji I think) doesn't allow much to go wrong. If you see the production line, 'human input' is minimal. In all cases, the workers were extremely professional - and certainly in Korea, pretty well paid too (in relative terms).
At every stage, the phones are tested thoroughly. It's probably virtually impossible to get something that's DOA these days. There's more chance of it getting damaged in transit, by a distributor or a dealer that gets one in and has a play with it before selling it!
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BobaFett
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all i can say according eu and asian products, is to cmpare an swedish r320 and a malaysian ( painted keypad, less background light etc ), same at t68m. of course /// itself is guilty, cos without their permission it wouldnt happened. sorry, but there is no way to cmpare se models, cos there are no swedish ones...
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ChuckG
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Its not just where its assembled...its also where the components are from...then you end up with probably 10+ countries...I don't think it matters in the end. |
BobaFett
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it does. as i mentioned i had the chance in the last years to compare eu and asian models, there are differences acording the quality of products.
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Quintessence
Joined: Mar 22, 2003
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A sample size of a few in several thousand units isn't always conclusive, sometimes there are bad batches... I think if you worked out the warranty rate over a large number, the percentage wouldn't be terribly different.
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goldenface
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On 2005-11-05 20:23:45, jmcomms wrote:
Aren't the phones still made by Flextronics? The company that, by their very name, are designed to be flexible and switch production from plant to plant to meet demand. The demand for the K750 and W800 has been phenomenal. In August, the K750i was the UK's top selling phone. The launch of the advertising campaign for the W800 was delayed a month because SE knew they wouldn't be able to meet demand.
I've been on factory tours with Motorola, Nokia and Samsung and the industrial equipment (in all these cases made by Fuji I think) doesn't allow much to go wrong. If you see the production line, 'human input' is minimal. In all cases, the workers were extremely professional - and certainly in Korea, pretty well paid too (in relative terms).
At every stage, the phones are tested thoroughly. It's probably virtually impossible to get something that's DOA these days. There's more chance of it getting damaged in transit, by a distributor or a dealer that gets one in and has a play with it before selling it!
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[ This Message was edited by: jmcomms on 2005-11-05 19:25 ]
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I dont think all phones are made by Flextronics. The last handset I seem to remember them making was the T300 and that was quite a while a go. Wasn't exactly top notch quality wise, according to me and some others on here, however I wouldn't slate the company on the strength of one model.
Handsets can be manufactured anywhere, indeed all companies that do make them are riding high at the moment as the market is still booming.
(Rumours of a new low-end handset in the link above)
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goldenface
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Some other interesting info here for those interested in where  phones are made. The following is a quote:
"First, Sony Ericsson is contemplating how it should tap into the emerging regional markets. As a result of the growing importance of emerging markets, Sony Ericsson is considering introducing more entry- to mid-level phones to cater to consumer demand in these markets.
Second, Sony Ericsson is receptive to outsourcing. According to an iSuppli study, Sony Ericsson is expected to outsource 65.9 percent of its mobile-phone production to Flextronics and Arima Communications in 2005 - the highest level of outsourcing among the leading mobile-phone OEMs. Therefore, Sony Ericsson is accustomed to working with EMS providers.
Third, Sony Ericsson's own manufacturing facility provides future growth potential. Sony Ericsson's only manufacturing facility is located in Beijing, where FIH also maintains a mobile-phone production operation. FIH may plan to conduct box assembly for Sony Ericsson first and then gradually grow the business into other areas such as PCB assembly in order to maximize its business scope and widen its relationship with Sony Ericsson."
Its says Sony Ericsson's only manufacturing facility is located in Beijing, which is strange!
So no more Japanese or Swedish models?  Surely this is a misprint....
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