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ToryXX
Joined: Aug 11, 2006
Posts: 495
From: Germany
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what you wrote is trues ...i made it like this and results are very good!
zuza driver with 0.0 EV
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/6168/dsc04992du4.jpg full size
and here zuza driver to - 0.7 EV more sharper the same results like in 7.82...or the another driver ....
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/4130/dsc04994mm5.jpg
and this is just to the close distance .. when you take a shot!
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On 2006-11-13 13:22:38, 2uk3y wrote:
I run some test using different EV value. looks like when EV 0, 7.82 more dark than zuza. so that make it a bit sharp. so after increase the EV value, the sharp slowly decrease coz the picture have more bright.
so when tested zuza driver, i try to decrease the EV value. then i see more sharp in the picture.
so what i see that maybe......
7.82 (EV 0) = zuza (EV -07) and zuza (EV 0) = 7.82 (EV +07) .......!!!
7.82 - night mode, EV 0
http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/3596/2006111319461gi7.jpg
7.82 - night mode, EV +0.3
http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/6069/2006111319491nh3.jpg
7.82 - night mode, EV +0.7
http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/3985/2006111319501uz8.jpg
zuza - night mode, EV 0
http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/4088/2006111319521ty7.jpg
zuza - night mode, EV -0.3
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/1460/2006111319531rd6.jpg
zuza - night mode, EV -0.7
http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/1303/2006111319541kx9.jpg
PS : hmmm....... what i saw that u all test this 2 driver in indoor, try test it on outdoor...... if i not mistaken, some of u already test it, and zuza win when outdoor, i guess !!!!!
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gprsman
Joined: Aug 28, 2006
Posts: 269
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My info software 7.130 not 7.82 is possible??link camdriiver 7.82 please .thanks. |
ToryXX
Joined: Aug 11, 2006
Posts: 495
From: Germany
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here is it is
http://www.filefactory.com/file/cf4100/
v7.82 LED flash auto settings , fine mode, night ,EV -2.0,close distant |
gprsman
Joined: Aug 28, 2006
Posts: 269
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Ciao ToryXX
You have tested photo with driver 7,82 in the open air?
I have seen your ace in photo six much beautiful one like girl 
I'mitalian hehehe |
ToryXX
Joined: Aug 11, 2006
Posts: 495
From: Germany
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zuza driver is better then 7.82 outside ,and now also inside  ....
thank you for the face....model model model |
ladi
Joined: Sep 15, 2006
Posts: 3
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Could you tell mi why when i take a photo and then a tried look at this photo in my mobile phone the screen is black? |
DarkChild
Joined: Sep 25, 2005
Posts: 68
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Zuza 2 driver saves video in .mp4. How do I change this to save in .3gp? The .mp4 format doesn't seem to want to play on quicktime in windows.
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gprsman
Joined: Aug 28, 2006
Posts: 269
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On 2006-11-13 18:49:06, ToryXX wrote:
zuza driver is better then 7.82 outside ,and now also inside ....
thank you for the face....model model model
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Ciao ToryXX bella
zuza 2 have little compresion? nevertheless the kb of the photos they are equal go from the 250 300 kb like compresion never low? Zuza 1 and zuza 2 is equal to part compresion?
thanks...
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jiji
Joined: Nov 04, 2006
Posts: 30
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just to end those discutions.
I started from an raw material... i took some ideas from camdriver explained, i compile some parts in my GENIUS mind (thank you verry much for caracterization wiser) and i tryed ..aa about 20-30 versions on the same script.. only with small steps in changing...
as in programing the method of small steps.
everytime I was almoust satisfied with the results.. i buzzed Torry and I asked her oppinion.
With her assistance and consider her as "clear-opend mind" , without too manny explainings I gave her the driver and confrun her thots with my observations.
In 1 blessed morning before going to usual job... in a usual mornig ... I was struck by an ideea during some readings in I2C language.
I noticed that in one sentence ... even is not totally right, OS identify at least 80% of text.
More I will not say... because otherwise I have to kill you
If you want 500 Kb.. corect the intentional mistakes in it.. and you'll have it. |
gprsman
Joined: Aug 28, 2006
Posts: 269
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On 2006-11-13 21:10:44, jiji wrote:
just to end those discutions.
I started from an raw material... i took some ideas from camdriver explained, i compile some parts in my GENIUS mind (thank you verry much for caracterization wiser) and i tryed ..aa about 20-30 versions on the same script.. only with small steps in changing...
as in programing the method of small steps.
everytime I was almoust satisfied with the results.. i buzzed Torry and I asked her oppinion.
With her assistance and consider her as "clear-opend mind" , without too manny explainings I gave her the driver and confrun her thots with my observations.
In 1 blessed morning before going to usual job... in a usual mornig ... I was struck by an ideea during some readings in I2C language.
I noticed that in one sentence ... even is not totally right, OS identify at least 80% of text.
More I will not say... because otherwise I have to kill you
If you want 500 Kb.. corect the intentional mistakes in it.. and you'll have it.
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Thanks for the explanation jiji, therefore I had intuit well, lowering compresion the driver it does not have the same optimal stability and fuocos? is this the trick for having photo defined in all? not to lower too much compresion as it originates them driver 5.3?
Therefore zuza 1 and zuza 2 is equal? it changes little alone compresion?
If it lowers compression to the maximum it ruins/bad the driver therefore. it must it are to us an just compromise of compresion just?
thanks for explain .
BRAVISIMMO jiji ;.)
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Mark_Q
Joined: May 01, 2005
Posts: 138
From: Helsinki, Finland
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Hello, all you busy shooters!
So many new pages since last time, so many camdriver versions...
Let's talk about exposure - TECHNICALLY correct exposure. Because no-one else doesn't care to document this issue I decided to do the dirty work.
May I presume that you know how the exposure meter in camera is designed to select the camera settings? You could easily find it out by taking a photo of f.ex. white sheet of paper filling the camera view completely. Look at the phot. Is it white? No? NO! The same goes to black/dark grey: camera wants to turn the single colored subject into middle grey. In normal shooting the subject we are photographing is a mixture of highlights and shadows, all this very often equalling middle grey. Fine.
Last summer I did some intensive field testing to map the exposure behaviour of K750, how/when it will change the exposure time, when the ISO sensitivity. Read the story here:
http://tinyurl.com/fme5d
Now that I have a digicam that will function as reference in terms of exposure values I wanted to find out, what kind of effect the various camdriver versions might have on exposure.
Technically speaking K750 is originally overexposuring in natural light as well with MXE-60 attached. So after reading some comments about the zuza I made some shooting and here are the results:
You can see, first at -0.7 exposure compensation K750 would exposure the middle grey test correctly. And already at +2.0 will hit pure white = blow out highlights. I tested also my Sony DSC-R1 to see how well my "handmade" test would compare to professionally executed test of pro-dSLRs of Canon and Nikon. Not bad, rough curve though.
Here you see how zuza will deliver in daylight, test taken almost too late, as one can see: K750 reached it's edge of performance, 1/20s ISO 1600 in Normal mode. EV 4 is the lowest lightness level where K750 still will deliver properly exposured photos, here I had EV 3.7, that's why the "cut-off".
I have noticed overexposure with MXE-60 and often adjusted the compensation accordingly. Now I can serve some facts. I have a 60x80cm large medium grey cupboard, which will fill the camera view at 75cm's distance. Here you see the results. Unfortunately I made some misstakes while being too tired, but yo see something, how well zuza handles MXE-60 exposures as well.
All you have to do is to read the point where the curve do cross the Miggle grey line, and see at which exposure compensation value this happens. Here the "maximized" original SE 5.3 driver would require -1.0 adjustment to deliver TECHNICALLY correct exposure at 75cms distance. I repeated this MXE-60 test also at 2 meters distance... please wait awhile, thaks for reading this far!
[ This Message was edited by: Mark_Q on 2006-11-13 21:23 ] |
gprsman
Joined: Aug 28, 2006
Posts: 269
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On 2006-11-13 22:22:19, Mark_Q wrote:
Hello, all you busy shooters!
So many new pages since last time, so many camdriver versions...
Let's talk about exposure - TECHNICALLY correct exposure. Because no-one else doesn't care to document this issue I decided to do the dirty work.
May I presume that you know how the exposure meter in camera is designed to select the camera settings? You could easily find it out by taking a photo of f.ex. white sheet of paper filling the camera view completely. Look at the phot. Is it white? No? NO! The same goes to black/dark grey: camera wants to turn the single colored subject into middle grey. In normal shooting the subject we are photographing is a mixture of highlights and shadows, all this very often equalling middle grey. Fine.
Last summer I did some intensive field testing to map the exposure behaviour of K750, how/when it will change the exposure time, when the ISO sensitivity. Read the story here:
http://tinyurl.com/fme5d
Now that I have a digicam that will function as reference in terms of exposure values I wanted to find out, what kind of effect the various camdriver versions might have on exposure.
Technically speaking K750 is originally overexposuring in natural light as well with MXE-60 attached. So after reading some comments about the zuza I made some shooting and here are the results:
You can see, first at -0.7 exposure compensation K750 would exposure the middle grey test correctly. And already at +2.0 will hit pure white = blow out highlights. I tested also my Sony DSC-R1 to see how well my "handmade" test would compare to professionally executed test of pro-dSLRs of Canon and Nikon. Not bad, rough curve though.
Here you see how zuza will deliver in daylight, test taken almost too late, as one can see: K750 reached it's edge of performance, 1/20s ISO 1600 in Normal mode. EV 4 is the lowest lightness level where K750 still will deliver properly exposured photos, here I had EV 3.7, that's why the "cut-off".
I have noticed overexposure with MXE-60 and often adjusted the compensation accordingly. Now I can serve some facts. I have a 60x80cm large medium grey cupboard, which will fill the camera view at 75cm's distance. Here you see the results. Unfortunately I made some misstakes while being too tired, but yo see something, how well zuza handles MXE-60 exposures as well.
All you have to do is to read the point where the curve do cross the Miggle grey line, and see at which exposure compensation value this happens. Here the "maximized" original SE 5.3 driver would require -1.0 adjustment to deliver TECHNICALLY correct exposure at 75cms distance. I repeated this MXE-60 test also at 2 meters distance... please wait awhile, thaks for reading this far!
[ This Message was edited by: Mark_Q on 2006-11-13 21:23 ]
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It compliments for your technical, indeed optimal preparation! According to you after to have examined many camdriver you think zuza the best one?
thanks . |
DarkChild
Joined: Sep 25, 2005
Posts: 68
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Can anyone tell me how to get the Zuza driver to save in 3gp format please? |
Magicnet2
Joined: Nov 13, 2006
Posts: 59
From: Slovakia
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Hi guys. Im quite new here, well at least in terms of posting and contributing to this topic. But im VERY happy, that I found this Forum. I was allways thinking about ways of improving the picture quality of my precious K750i and I was following this forum for quite a time, to get to know as much as I could. As I am quite stupid of programming , I wouldnt be much of a help in the HIGHLY PROFFESSIONAL conversations about how to do that and that, so for now, I was just reading and gathering informations. I will gladly try and test the drivers available and tell you what I think of it, but I have to ask for one favor. Can anybody be so kind and post a little bit of a manual as how to implement the driver into my phone, or a link where I could find this manual. And how to make a backup copy of the one that is present in th phone.
And one further thing. I hear that the ZUZA is saving in mp4 format. Does it mean also tha the quality is improved, or just the compression - size?
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wiser
Joined: Oct 24, 2006
Posts: 26
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On 2006-09-25 22:44:38, gxg wrote:
Guys, girlz... let's not argue here.
It's a forum for god sake.. everybody have something to say. Tory e praf.. lasa-l! majoritatea sunt stupizi!
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wow.....gxg and toryx made and tested zuza....a little strange dont u think ??
maybe tory got smart after 100 pages and ur opinion...
ps: who wants a translation....can be done....
btw...just told u gxg about bugs in video mode on zuza....i guess its just on my phone...
anyway....i stay on 30.1 good job e man
good job to u too gxg looks like most of the guys like ur new drv...
and looks like ur job is done
for everyone else who doesnt like zuza....we can go back to other versions
anyway....my personal thought : i just think u gxg - jiji - gtiu just need a prize for what u did here....most of mooders just stoped or got lazy or disapointed but u didnt stop til u made a good drv(a drv who everybody likes )...
big man....big mooder...good luck
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