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Kryptik
Joined: Jun 24, 2005
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From: Port Elizabeth, S.Africa
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Grrr, hate it when my posts just disappear into thin air!
Yo, Agentsms, i visited the site, followed the instructions, still waiting patiently for my password to be sent...
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ambyzown
Joined: May 11, 2005
Posts: 231
From: Lagos-Nigeria
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Your Jacob Zuma needs to come take some lessons on evading trial and supporter management from our DSP Alamiyeseigha 
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Kryptik
Joined: Jun 24, 2005
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From: Port Elizabeth, S.Africa
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 @ Amby! Some fancy footwork is what he's going to need, bro, the fit's hitting the shan over here
Just heard on SAfm that SE's strategy for next year involves making inroads into the entry-level phone market. Avinash Pillay of SE specifically mentioned the K300 which has a camera, colour screen, plays mp3, etc as selling at under R1000 so it would appear that this will form part of their thrust next year...
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amawanqa
Joined: May 08, 2004
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From: Hornchurch UK & East London SA
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Have you guys seen this post,where you post your location in the world, on this 'esato world' map?
I'll be expecting to see Algoa Bay marked soon,Kryptik... 
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=109421
or straight to the site:
http://www.frappr.com/esato
He who laughs last... thinks slowest.
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Kryptik
Joined: Jun 24, 2005
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From: Port Elizabeth, S.Africa
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There's a button on that site entitled- Not from the US? Click here- i tried countless times to get the link to work, trying to get the site to recognize ZA. Thanx for the link, Wanksta
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ambyzown
Joined: May 11, 2005
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From: Lagos-Nigeria
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On 2005-11-22 20:49:00, Kryptik wrote:
.....the fit's hitting the shan over here ...
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And why is this so? whats the story there? |
brix25
Joined: Aug 20, 2003
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From: Cape Town, South Africa
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LOL@ amby...There's no way Zuma is avoiding trial...things have progressed too far for charges against him to be dropped.
BTW, how is the case being reported in Naija? We only get smatterings of news from Nigeria, especially about the rebel leader in the south who's been making noise about succesion from the federal republic.
@da krypsta: I'm still awaiting for my W900 from Avinesh Maybe I have to disagree with Mr Pillay, the future market will be for middle-tier phones like the K750 and K600...a perfect mix of features at the right price.
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TeenInvader
Joined: May 13, 2005
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From: South Africa - Jo'burg
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On 2005-11-22 21:42:00, Kryptik wrote:
There's a button on that site entitled- Not from the US? Click here- i tried countless times to get the link to work, trying to get the site to recognize ZA. Thanx for the link, Wanksta
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I added my self yesterday ! ! ! |
JK
Joined: Feb 24, 2005
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From: S. Africa - JOZI
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Hey bongi, I cant register... whats the city name....
I tried johannesburg and it couldnt find me  |
Kryptik
Joined: Jun 24, 2005
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From: Port Elizabeth, S.Africa
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@Bong, i've been trying to add myself via my phone. I've tried Opera 6.20, Opera Mini, Netfront 3.2 as well as the phone's browser to get that button/link to respond, no joy. I even tried swearing at it, to no avail...
@Brix, Jon Perlman mentioned the sale of phones to the "poorest of the poor", which would neatly fit the bill, i think.
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brix25
Joined: Aug 20, 2003
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From: Cape Town, South Africa
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@da krypsta: Just been following the two Idols finalists around Cape Town, you might catch a glimpse of me on Sunday. Motorola are rolling out the sub $40 phones, and have specifically mentioned SA as being a country that will benefit from it's development. Here's a nice story
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9850940/
Cell Phones For The People
Mobile companies may make the most money by going downscale
By Andy Reinhardt in Paris, with Elizabeth Johnson in Sao Paulo, Brazil
Business Week
Updated: 7:00 p.m. ET Oct. 30, 2005
When it comes to sexy mobile phones, the stars of the moment are multimedia wonders such as the new RAZR V3x handset from Motorola Inc. (MOT) and Nokia Corp.'s (NOK) top-of-the-line N-90 camera phone with Carl Zeiss optics. Yet for all the attention they grab, these pricey gizmos are a sliver of the 800 million unit-per-year mobile-phone business. Increasingly, the real action is at the unglamorous end of the scale, among bare-bones Nokia and Motorola models priced under $50. Sales of such phones, which often handle just voice and text messaging, could grow 100% annually for the next five years.
That's feeding an explosion of new mobile users worldwide, especially in developing countries. In the past year, for instance, South Africa's No. 1 operator, Vodacom, has expanded its customer base 35%, thanks in part to ultracheap phones. "We've pushed for years to get cheaper handsets," says managing director Shameel Joosub. Vodacom has placed an order for 700,000 units of a new $30 Motorola model slated for 2006.
There are now about 2 billion mobile-phone users in the world, and market penetration is above 50% in advanced countries. But as prices for phones and service drop, another billion customers could sign up by 2010 from places such as China, India, Brazil, and Russia. "All the growth in subscribers is coming from emerging markets," says David Taylor, Motorola's director of strategy and operations for high-growth markets. Researchers predict that of the 1 billion cell phones expected to be sold in 2010, half will be in developing economies. Most will cost less than $40 -- still out of reach for the poorest one-third of the world's population but affordable for the middle third. "This market is wicked big," says senior analyst John Jackson of telecom researcher Yankee Group Research Inc. in Boston.
For now, the only serious contenders are Nokia and Motorola. The world's No. 1 and No. 2 makers, respectively, are scrambling to grab first-time buyers and build lifelong loyalty. "We want to bring new customers to our brand," says Antonio Torres, the director of business development and industry marketing for Nokia's entry business unit. Only Nokia and Motorola are able to churn out ultracheap phones with the features, quality, and brand names customers want. "This market is suited to mega-vendors with economies of scale," says senior analyst Neil Mawston with researcher Strategy Analytics near London. "Nokia and Motorola will own this segment."
Samsung Group, LG Electronics, and Sony Ericsson Mobile Communications haven't yet announced plans to sell sub-$50 handsets, preferring to rake in rich profits at the high end. That strategy could backfire, though, as the market shifts. "Samsung needs to do something because its share is not growing," says Carolina Milanesi, mobile analyst with researcher Gartner Inc. (IT) near London.
PHONE SNOBS
Emerging low-cost Chinese makers have a different problem: Their volumes aren't high enough to match the efficiencies enjoyed by Nokia and Motorola, so they lose money on rock-bottom handsets. They're also not as adept at shrinking electronics and producing durable packages. Plus, status-conscious buyers in the third world turn up their noses at unknown marques. "Brazilians want brand names and are willing to pay a bit more for Nokia and Motorola," says Sergio Pelegrino, director of GSM for Brasil Telecom.
Of course, moving downscale also poses risks for Nokia and Motorola. On Oct. 20, the Finnish giant reported that it sold 15 million entry-level 1100-series handsets in the third quarter alone. But despite an overall 29% jump in net profits, Wall Street was spooked by a 5.6% year-over-year decline in Nokia's average selling price, to $122.40, and drove its shares down 4.5%. Analyst Albert Lin with American Technology Research Inc. in San Francisco thinks investors are underestimating Nokia's ability to prosper in the low-price segment. "These phones can actually have higher margins than new high-end models," he says.
Already, both Nokia and Motorola are managing to produce handsets for as little as $25, allowing gross margins of 15% to 30% at current prices. That compares with overall 33% margins across Nokia's entire handset portfolio; Motorola's figures aren't disclosed. Big volumes of low-end phones also unleash scale economies that reduce production costs even for high-end models. "It's a key factor in getting our cost structure down," says Nokia's Torres. As sales shift to low-end phones, such savings should help Nokia maintain overall operating margins of 13.5% for years, forecasts analyst Richard Windsor of Nomura Securities in London. To seal the deal, Nokia is churning out technologies to slash the cost of building and operating wireless networks by a half. Bargain service boosts the impact of cheaper phones -- and should help the 4 billion people on earth who have never made a phone call.
Copyright © 2005 The McGraw-Hill Companies Inc. All rights reserved.
© 2005 MSNBC.com
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TeenInvader
Joined: May 13, 2005
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From: South Africa - Jo'burg
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On 2005-11-23 10:19:44, 786KBR wrote:
Hey bongi, I cant register... whats the city name....
I tried johannesburg and it couldnt find me
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I typed johannesburg, and it automatically displayed, johannesburg, south africa(gauteng) then I clicked that.
That is after u have selected the link "outside us".
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Kryptik
Joined: Jun 24, 2005
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From: Port Elizabeth, S.Africa
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@Brix, my wife convinced me to watch the show last weekend, so i'll be keeping my eyes peeled. She's even trying to convince me to cast my vote in favour of the sister... Gotta admit the girl can sing... Not that i'm a worthy judge, i can't even croak harmoniously.
EDIT- just read this article, absolutely worth a read. Have a look and see exactly why Vodacom, MTN and Cell C are making so much money... http://www.fin24.co.za/articles/business/display_article.asp?Nav=ns&lvl2=buss&ArticleID=1518-1786_1839390
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amawanqa
Joined: May 08, 2004
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From: Hornchurch UK & East London SA
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On the night shift tonight,Kryptik?
Always think of that old Commodores song (before Lionel Richie went solo) from the 80's when I use or see the words 'night shift.'
The eighties...I'm such a sentimental bugger.
He who laughs last... thinks slowest.
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Kryptik
Joined: Jun 24, 2005
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From: Port Elizabeth, S.Africa
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I'm not positive, but didn't Richie go solo before this song? Kinda early here, so the old brain's still in Park
I used to listen to this song over and over, especially since it was in honour of Marvin Gaye and Jackie Wilson, who had 2 of the most brilliant voices in Motown.
Irony? As i was posting this message that song by SR-71 just started playing, "1985" Heaven forbid we fall into that category!!
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