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amirprog
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Posted: 2014-07-21 12:10
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Let's assume this device is real. with such code name either they are hinting that it should be announced at first half before z4 or misleading people for some reason and the code name only indicate that it is a high end device.
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Posted: 2014-07-21 18:29
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Sapphire Shield by Kyocera

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCs7UE7dtxA


Sony we need to explore this quickly....
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DexterMoser
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Posted: 2014-07-21 19:11
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http://www.sonyalpharumors.co[....]or-camera-with-20mm-f1-2-lens/
Nothing new there, but SAR says the sensor will launch soon at Photokina. SR4!



On 2014-07-21 03:56:03, cu015170 wrote:
The 1" sensor cameraphone ... we can only dream To be honest I don't even care if it has an even bigger hump, but the market tells a different story so I doubt that we will see it happen.

I expect them to go into crazy resolutions instead..

Yeah, a 1" sensor will require even more space, and most customers seem to like only thin devices...

But I have some hope. If a 2/3" sensor (MX271SMK) really turns out in a thin device without a hump it would be amazing. If someone told me this last year I would have called him crazy!
So we never know what technical advances might come next year!

And even though I'd like to see bigger sensors, I'd be thrilled by a 80MP smartphone. Think of the possibilities. Who the hell needs optical zoom if you have 80MP?!
But I guess only Nokia could pull that off!
[ This Message was edited by: DexterMoser on 2014-07-21 18:21 ]
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itsjustJOH
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Posted: 2014-07-21 19:25
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"7.83mm lens f/1.2 G lens is only 6mm thick"

If the lens would be that thick, plus the sensor, I doubt a 7.9mm thickness like what maia and milku said would be possible. That is, if it would be flat rear/no ass.
DexterMoser
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Posted: 2014-07-21 19:35
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^Why not?
Like with Z1 and Z2 the camera module won't be behind the screen, it will be above. So theoretical only the back and front piece of glass will add thickness.
What's the thickness of a piece of gorilla glass?

Edit:
Ah I misread your comment, but I think SAR ment the thickness of the whole camera module? I guess...
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Posted: 2014-07-21 19:42
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^Xperiablog did say the same thing, or they copied it from SAR. Dunno.
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Posted: 2014-07-21 19:45
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^Hm, if the lens itself is 6mm I have serious doubts if this will fit in a smartphone at all. Maybe "just" a new QX camera?
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huiyi
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Posted: 2014-07-21 23:47
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IMX271SMK This sensor will be used in the Z3X's! ! Z3X is temporary internal name for! Z3X now there are a lot of variables! IMX271SMK mass production soon! Z3 sensors and iphone 6 is not a model! iphone6 ​​sensor size 1/2.3 indeed!
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Posted: 2014-07-22 00:47
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On 2014-07-21 23:47:03, huiyi wrote:
IMX271SMK This sensor will be used in the Z3X's! ! Z3X is temporary internal name for! Z3X now there are a lot of variables! IMX271SMK mass production soon! Z3 sensors and iphone 6 is not a model! iphone6 ​​sensor size 1/2.3 indeed!


Oooh, interesting. Are you able to confirm that the stated screen size of the Z3X is accurate? A 6.14" display sounds absolutely perfect for my next phone after my Z Ultra

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Posted: 2014-07-22 02:00
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Personally I think the current level of smartphone cameras is acceptable and unless it means mid-range DSLR quality or large optical zoom I don't want Sony to sacrifice a slim design or make a artificial looking bump.

Please do not wish for a bump, you may as well go buy a Samsung, who's bumps are hideous things and a disgrace to design. I'd be questioning my worth to society if that was the best I could come up with for an industry leading device. (Sony, sign me up )

If they make a hump backed phone they have to at least make it look like it's part of the design for example Xperia S, X10, going back C905 and to an extent even Satio and K800.

Better still make a new design that doesn't even look like it's been designed around a camera depth eg. Arc/TX style
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Posted: 2014-07-22 04:02
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Sony BETTER not make a bump. However, I'm all for an ever so slightly thicker design if it means a significant battery capacity increase.

Am I the only one that finds it ironic that Sony are the leaders of camera hardware in modern smartphones? You'd think they'd focus on the image processing on the site too...
kurtdean
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Posted: 2014-07-22 05:59
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I think it's confirm that xperia z3x will have that new curved sensor because huiyi said so
Xajel
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Posted: 2014-07-22 08:20
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On 2014-07-22 04:02:35, Away wrote:
Sony BETTER not make a bump. However, I'm all for an ever so slightly thicker design if it means a significant battery capacity increase.

Am I the only one that finds it ironic that Sony are the leaders of camera hardware in modern smartphones? You'd think they'd focus on the image processing on the site too...


Totally Agree, and I said that before also.. prefer slightly thicker to make the battery larger... even though the battery life in Z2 + Z2 Tablet is great.. but no body will say no to more battery life in smartphone, but I wonder how much more capacity will be gained if we increase the thickness by 1mm, and I believe a dragontrail/sapphire back sheet will make it even thinner...

We will know soon which one is better strength and cost
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Posted: 2014-07-22 12:17
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So what is this Z3X device? People have said there will be no ZU replacement, so what is this exactly.

The next issue, is the camera resolution, it doesn't appear to have any standard 4:3 ratio, unless the picture out is the video, and not images.

http://www.cnbeta.com/articles/311487.htm

Whatever this thing above in that article is, is definable not a module that will fit into a smart phone. Regardless of what people will say, there is no way in hell a small enough motor can be made for the aperture blades that will all fit into a nice thin body like a Z2, sorry no way in hell, I do not believe it. Sony is king of miniaturization, but even this I feel is beyond their abilities, at least for the time being. That being said, this device in the above link is probably for either a point and shoot camera or for the lens cameras, QX10, possibly new model. Although it remains to be seen if Sony does upgrade the QX10/100 at IFA and release new models, or will show this sensor with lens camera as concept and release it a bit later, ie christmas.

As for the sensor itself, MX271SMK, I am sure it exists and sticking it into a smartphone will be feasible and it would make sense for some high end device to sport it but for it to ship with a f1.2 lens on a smartphone? I don't know, hard for me too believe Sony would go for such a lens, f1.8 would be a better option. Although a f1.2 lens would provide insane bokeh.

Whatever the truth or facts or rumours, the next few months should be interesting regarding imaging and sony.
Wishmaster89
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Posted: 2014-07-22 13:47
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With this size and f1.2 aperture it would give similar DoF as f2.5 lens on m4/3 camera and that would be truly remarkable for mobile camera.
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