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domipost
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Honestly I think LTE will be a failure in the beginning, just like UMTS. Most people don't know what it is and don't need really that fast internet. |
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jack00
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back when umts started casuals hardly used the internet for more then researches and email. but peoples viewpoint on the internet changed. web 2.0 made it cool to use the internet. so times change, we have a different situation and a different market. |
bodeh6
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HSPA with speeds upwards of 21 and 42Mbps on the downlink are coming to light. Why would one need LTE? But when the time is right SE will create LTE phones. They are probably in development as we speak.
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jack00
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HSPDA is nice, but in large cities cells pretty soon reach its limits and downloading gets pretty slow |
apolloa
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Where I live in the UK I can't even get 3G LOL  but it is a village in Dorset so..... |
clauf
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On 2009-05-29 08:44:18, razec wrote:
aino reminds me of that sharp phone that has XGA screen, could you name that one for me clauf?
931SH?
Actually, all Japanese sliders look like Aino, where d-pad is in the slider keypad as opposed to being on the same level as the screen, which is why I suspect SE Japan's involvement in the Aino. |
se_love
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On 2009-05-29 20:39:01, clauf wrote:
On 2009-05-29 08:44:18, razec wrote:
aino reminds me of that sharp phone that has XGA screen, could you name that one for me clauf?
931SH?
Actually, all Japanese sliders look like Aino, where d-pad is in the slider keypad as opposed to being on the same level as the screen, which is why I suspect SE Japan's involvement in the Aino.
It also(for me at least) explain a lot why SE of Japan have nothing in the summer docomo line. |
prototype_bo
Joined: Dec 15, 2006
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On 2009-05-29 10:28:08, se_love wrote:
On 2009-05-29 10:11:58, prototype_bo wrote:
i preferred the name IDOU more than SATIO. it kinda clicks in your head.
SATIO will be chased by users who brag about "my phone has more mega pixels than yours"
AINO will be for people who chase looks, rather than functionality. spare me the marketing junk of PS3 integration.
YARI, IF .. and i mean a big IF. marketed correctly, can generate decent stable cash flow for the company.
[ This Message was edited by: prototype_bo on 2009-05-29 09:13 ]
Yari while being the lower classman of the trio is the one that will get things going. Great design unlike anything SE has given(bar the backside but hell that usually can be ignored) perfect specs for being in the midddle and it will feature the newest facelift called A300 along with the new walkman which is just awesome with the styles. Its everything except for top notch 8MP cam sensor and it will sell. The other 2 I dunno people will feel ripped off when they see it doesn't have full touchscreen capabilities and see it as a gimmick and how freaking large it will be be and for satio well satio will need a miracle to make SE a profit.
the walkman on Yari is not new - and this might surprise you - it is the same recent one, but revamped to accomodate flash skins. so that's just a dressing.
Aino: the key selling attribute is - well how shall i put it - disfunctional
Satio: although it is a convergence device, still it's power resides in its cam specs. and for it to compete with Omnia HD in a fair fight, it HAS to have 720 P HD vid record (with slow motion feature 1/8 and 1/4)
i would really emphasis, that the walkman and the cybershot segregation in the past, was nothing but a marketing gimmick. nowadays, they have shifted to the "convergence" terminology. if you don't believe me, well, the very old K700 snapped pictures (regardless of the resolution, since the cam module of past days was limited), supported MP3 playback, and had video recording.
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Consumology
Joined: Jun 25, 2005
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@apolloa: I live partly on the countryside as well. EDGE is all I can get here and only LTE will change that as it is much cheaper to build up compared to UMTS/HSDPA. Here in Germany especially Vodafone is very keen on new frequencies the government is giving away hopefully rather sooner than later this year. If all goes well Germany could have complete LTE coverage by 2011/2012. Ericsson already has a working LTE cell in Sweden so I just hope Sony Ericsson is not repeating the UIQ-phones diet plan: first no UMTS and never EDGE. |
apolloa
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Cheers mate, I've heard of this LTE but not too keyed up on it. I doubt it will happen for a while? When the UK rip off merchant government sold the 3G licenses they made BILLIONS from the UK carriers in a bidding war, which was nice as our UK tariffs then remained high to cover it. So I wouldn't be surprised if their hesitant this time. |
Consumology
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Same happened in Germany but I guess everybody is more reasonable these days. Especially since none of the newcommers built up a UMTS network the governments will look not so much on getting money but more on getting coverage, especially on the countryside. So I hope Satio's successor will have LTE  |
prototype_bo
Joined: Dec 15, 2006
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do you really consider that LTE will propel SE (or at least the joint venture) from the dark financial clouds?
what they needs, is exemplified in two things:
1 - Radical New Thinking
2 - Creativity (usefull creativity that is)
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jack00
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it should definitly happen faster this time
after all building up LTE networks could give new jobs and help the economy alitte
T-Mobile Austria reported that from this day on it would take them 12months to make austria LTE compatible
do you really consider that LTE will propel SE (or at least the joint venture) from the dark financial clouds?
what they needs, is exemplified in two things:
1 - Radical New Thinking
2 - Creativity (usefull creativity that is)
the thing is that se is currently so far behind that they need a reset. and LTE would be this reset point. simply because all
companies need to start at the same level.
1 - the new EU strategy is definitly a radical turn, also the new naming system shows a nice twist.
2 - creativity would be needed in the software department. out sourcing too much stuff leads to a buggy end product and
to a generic ui design. sony has problemes in their software department since years now, but there is no proper solution on the horizon. android wants to be this allround solution - i'd prefer palms webOS, but we have to see how this develops.
but never the less, i suggest that they concentrate on one single OS. its nice to have variety - yes - but a small company like sony ericsson shouldn't have to worry about 4(possibly android,winmob,Aseries,symbian) software systems. this is taking to much resources, this can't be viable.
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Consumology
Joined: Jun 25, 2005
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Of course LTE will not help SE at the moment but if they do not wanna sleep through the next wave like they did with smartphone mania they better do research on it now.
I guess it is clear that they understood what strategical change is necessary and the last announcement shows that they are moving forward. |
clauf
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I personally think companies should only concentrate on one operating system. This equates to more people using the OS, meaning more applications and developments = better OS.
@SE_Love: Sony Ericsson Japan is backing away from phone developments in Japan because they aren't selling well... the Japanese market is really hard to penetrate: we already know Nokia closed down their phone devision because they couldn't generate any sales. LG is now trying, but they aren't doing that well either (better than Nokia I believe), and Samsung's always been flat in Japan. I hope and have heard Sony Ericsson might enter back into the aggressive DoCoMo market again right after DoCoMo begins LTE network subscription later on this year/early 2010... which is kind of funny because you guys are talking about SEMC and LTE network as a "reset" point.
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