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arsenalchamp
Joined: Jun 14, 2002
Posts: 36
From: nottingham
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i just got back from portugal, when i was over there couldn't use my email in fone, apparently freeuk is local rate no. and won't work abroad, also couldn't use laptop with fone as i am with orange.net and they don't support overseas, really pissed off, gotta use orange.net in this country cause if u have free minutes in price plan there no. is the only one that u can use free mins. with. anyone know of an email account that i can put in phone for using overseas, and also isp
cheers
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evoke
Joined: Mar 05, 2002
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Welcome back! Bit crap u couldn't use your phone. Ed
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mhorton
Joined: Jan 13, 2002
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From: UK
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You could have tried the Int Dialup number.
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bobahiom
Joined: Jul 16, 2002
Posts: 45
From: Hull
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I use the ericsson isp cause it still counts out of ur free minutes on orange, national rate numbers still count cause i checked for using phone cards and stuff like that.
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benjytrainer
Joined: Jan 29, 2002
Posts: 43
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Hello
To re-iterate :
Handset and WAP gateway negotiate limit on download. Trust me on this. Now, it was initially thought that T68i would have limitations removed in the browser so it could pull through payloads over 3 Kb ( T68m was limited ), but I have seen NO evidence of this. In fact, on gateways that I KNOW can negotiate higher limits ( let's take vodafone's as an example ), the T68i has been happy to stay at it's 3 Kb. I know this, because I had a test server set up to test EXACTLY this issue ( which is why I decided to reply ).
I have also used handsets that will negotiate up to the limit ( in practice ) of about 8 Kb.
So, as I pointed out in my last post, there is an issue with the handset AND the gateway, usually the handset is the limiter, but in the cases where it is not, then the gateway usually comes in at about 8 Kb.
Hope this answers the question
No I don't train staff at benjy's although I am rather partial to their wicked sandwiches
benj
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mhorton
Joined: Jan 13, 2002
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From: UK
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I have just recieved this. If anyone is interested
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Check out our website and fill in the new online form to give us your views.
And dont for get about the shows coming up, if you want to be on any stands
mail me as soon as possable.
See you all soon.
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In Association with
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brownjs
Joined: May 03, 2002
Posts: 222
From: scotland
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well nice to be back as well as i went to manchester for a wedding for a few days with some of my mates
edwardm - manchester is a nice place
mhorton - post some pics of your car
oh on wenesday when i went to manchester my 5 year old and 8 yyear old brother went wih my dad and got an xbox
they got iss2 , halo,007 and project gotham racing it is preetygood console although not to keen on the controller
on tues day i went to orange shop with my dad and i nearly bought a t68 although the insurance does notinclude call protection (someone steels your phone and makes call then youur covered suppose my dad has a point if my phone was stolen and someone rang up a huge bill it would be dad who is respondsible for paying but i have now found where i will get my insurance from here
here is the link it is preety cheap
www.cusc.co.uk
might go for a phone this afternoon do not know yet
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ShibbyLicious
Joined: Jul 25, 2002
Posts: 290
From: UK
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noooooooooooo
no way - banjytrainer m8 where do u get this info from !?
not 2 b a bastard here but how the fcuk did u set up your own wap parameters unless u actually wrk for network development for vodafone !?!?
the stuff ya say bout wap gateways bein limited yeh ya spot on etc
but the handset issue !! no !!
the handset has no issue with the size, the size limitations r put in place by the network operators, you can get larger permissions if u wish form them but by in large the standard limit is 3 kb !!
ill post the tech-speak network report if needs b 2 bk this up !!
benjy this aint a personal dig but just let it go the handset dont have a limity wit incoming file sizes, it has no influence on the WAP parameters as they are set in place within the infrastructure if the network !!
handset no
network yes
solutoin ring ya operator ask 4 larger wap data acees, they derestrict u, nuff sed.
true.
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Eleventy7
Joined: Jul 05, 2002
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From: the rotten oasis
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Nice argument goin on but every1 can chill out now safe in the knowledge that the weekend has landed!
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evoke
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On 2002-07-26 15:43, ShibbyLicious wrote:
solutoin ring ya operator ask 4 larger wap data acees, they derestrict u, nuff sed
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OK just talked to the Voda technical experts and after some call-holding and consultation and general not knowing what I'm talking about they told me that the 3kb data limit could NOT be increased at the moment! No doubt a different person would have a different answer but I give up on it to be honest!
I think I'm going to have to get a cable or live with it!
Ed
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Eleventy7
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From: the rotten oasis
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Actual quote from the help section of the O2 website (I was searchin for info on data limits) >
"Can I download Ringtones and Icons via WAP?
Downloads via WAP
Can I download icons/ringtones over WAP?
No, WAP mobile phones do not have a download facility but you can download using GPRS. Go to www.O2.co.uk/shop to find out more about our GRPS tariffs. "
Hmmm wap phones don't have a download facility, I must be imagining all the pics and ringtones on my T68mi then!
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benjytrainer
Joined: Jan 29, 2002
Posts: 43
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Hello
By my reckoning, only one person here has an issue with the answers I posted.
Anyhow, again for those hard of reading, phone and wap gateway will negotiate. Lower of the two limit is imposed.
And Voda can handle a limit higher than 3 Kb, I know this because I pulled through image of 5 and 6 Kb. But not with a T68.
I am not going to tell you which phone, or how and why I was doing this, and frankly, whether you choose to believe this is not is your own thing.
You can also post all the tech-reports you want, but some of us work in the industry ( and have done for years ) and some of us don't. Enough said I think.
Now, if anyone wants to prove that you can pull through a payload greater than 3 Kb with a T68, then cool, go ahead. I am happy to be proved wrong that T68 can - but using the voda gateway, which will pass over 6 Kb, T68 ( note, that's the PHONE there ) clips back to 3 Kb.
And at any rate, practicality of the situation is no stuff over 3 Kb - therefore cable ( DRS-11 ) or IrDA is a good solution, and AGAIN, cheaper over the long run. Plus you can use the other software that's available to sync your data and hence back it up for you.
By the way shibby, you may want to upgrade your firmware at some point ...
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decoy7
Joined: Feb 06, 2002
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From: NW London
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benjytrainer,
do you have the MMS upgrade? can you store more than one pic in your phone?
many users in the non UK forum are able to download larger than 3KB -
why would this be if they have the same phones and software?
also, i'm able to send screensavers from my phone larger than 3KB, give me your email address if you want an example.
as far as i'm concerned the 3KB download limit IN MY CASE is due to my service provider and not my phone...not sure where you've got this info from but after first reading it appears wrong.
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benjytrainer
Joined: Jan 29, 2002
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Hello
The limitation is :
i n t h e w a p b r o w s e r
phew.
there are no limits for email or use via the datacable etc, or else I wouldn't be suggesting it
If someone would like to suggest a firmware combination and operator-gateway combo that they think they can browse WAP with and pull in over 3 Kb payloads, fire away.
Certainly R2B025 was not very happy about it, haven't bothered to test R2E006 purely because THE DATACABLE ( or any other local method ) of sending is
a) quicker
b) easier
c) cheaper
Ultimately, I am not fussed whether people believe this or not, because having done the tests across most of europe with a number of phones, I already KNOW what the situation is.
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evoke
Joined: Mar 05, 2002
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Confusing the sh*t out of me! I just can't understand if that is the case why half of Esato 'appear' to be able to download files over 3kb via WAP on their T68's - although not in the UK?
BTW I've got R2E006 on Voda and I still can't do it.
ShibbyLicious> quote "ill post the tech-speak network report if needs b 2 bk this up !!"
Can you post it??
Anyway everyone lets chill out and enjoy the good weather whilst we've got it! 
Enjoy your weekend!
Ed
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