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DCUK7
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Posted: 2005-01-17 00:07
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You could always make a recording on the phone, they are saved in AMR format. I might see if I can record the sound the T610 camera shutter makes or the one my iPAQ makes. At least they sound like camera shutters!
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Posted: 2005-01-17 00:09
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what format does your phone record sound in? record a very short silent sound file from your phone. I cant remember if its amr or wav. If wav then it can be easily converted to amr anyway.

Because the platform sends bogus messages while charging, that is why!!!..But why this change of heart?..We sense a charger connected, oops, we will not shut down after all!!!..*********************** UI BASIC, HOLD YOUR HORSES
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Posted: 2005-01-17 00:14
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@gbrooks3

Recording a silent sound using the phone is possible. It saves in amr format. BUT I can only record at least 3 seconds! I don't want to send a file that is too long... it might slow down taking pictures (or...?).
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Posted: 2005-01-17 00:20
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ok, well nearly there. i hope. will send you the file when done.

Because the platform sends bogus messages while charging, that is why!!!..But why this change of heart?..We sense a charger connected, oops, we will not shut down after all!!!..*********************** UI BASIC, HOLD YOUR HORSES
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Posted: 2005-01-17 01:04
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@CyberVisitor

Have got you a silent wav file of length 0.75 seconds. Having a bit of trouble converting it to amr format. bare with me.

Because the platform sends bogus messages while charging, that is why!!!..But why this change of heart?..We sense a charger connected, oops, we will not shut down after all!!!..*********************** UI BASIC, HOLD YOUR HORSES
vee
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Posted: 2005-01-17 21:43
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@all

to get rid of camera shutter sound using setool you need to delete camerashutter.mid

only need to delete it, no need to write any other file... only if you want to replace it with some other sound you need to delete and then write another file with different sound, but the same name...

check this for general info how to di it: http://www.setool.net/write_files.rar

the path (the only line you need in *.txt file) to delete totally camera shutter sound is:

deletefile:/tpa/preset/system/sound/camerashutter.mid



[ This Message was edited by: vee on 2005-01-17 20:44 ]
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Posted: 2005-01-17 22:34
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@vee

I guess the next question (there's always a next question, isn't there...) is what the name of the file is that beeps when recording a movie...
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Posted: 2005-01-17 22:55
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@cyber

hehe I guess you never sleep ... will let you know soon
vee
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Posted: 2005-01-17 22:59
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ok here are some more file paths for all that want to play... compiled posts from the_laser from official support forum of setool. enjoy...
i take no responisibility for anything you can do to your phone!!!


/tpa/preset/system/sound

camerashutter.mid
cameratimer.mid
connecting.mid
disconnected.mid
discreet.mid
failure.mid
keyclick.mid
lowbattery.mid
messagealert1.mid
messagealert2.mid
messagealert3.mid
messagealert4.mid
messagealert5.mid
messagealert6.mid
messageclick.mid
notification.mid
progress.mid
reminder.mid
request.mid
retrysuccess.mid
success.mid
timer.mid
video.mid @Cyber - maybe this one, who will try

--------------------------------------------------

that is clipart. i think you can add OWN pictures.
it is PNG, size 80x70

/tpa/preset/system/multimedia/pe/clipart/

Afro.png
Angry Thoughts.png
Arrow.png
Beard.png
Clown Nose.png
Disguise.png
Hearts.png
Mask.png
Moustache.png
Mouth.png
Pacifier.png
Pig Nose.png
Pirate.png
Punk Hair.png
Question Thoughts.png
Scar.png
Sombrero.png

that is frames. PNG, size is 320x240

/tpa/preset/system/multimedia/pe/frames/

Amber.png
Brass.png
Brushed Alu.png
Bubble.png
Camo.png
Jelly.png
Mediterranean.png
Soccer.png
Wriggle Plant.png

same frames, but other look
again, 320x240, PNG

/tpa/preset/system/multimedia/pe/funlayer/

Angel.png
Baby.png
Behind Bars.png
Bunny.png
Double Heart.png
Extra.png
Hiphop.png
Hippie.png
Monkey.png
Superhero.png
TV Star.png
Wanted.png

and probably most wanted

/tpa/preset/system/settings/

SHUTDOWN_IMAGE_SEMC
splash
STARTUP_IMAGE_SEMC
SHUTDOWN_SOUND_SEMC.mid
STARTUP_SOUND_SEMC.mid

pictures can be animated GIF, BMP, PNG
size is 176x220

sounds are mid.

[ This Message was edited by: vee on 2005-01-17 22:18 ]
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Posted: 2005-01-18 00:05
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@vee

"video.mid" was deleted from the K700i and now there is no sound whatsoever when recording video. It worked
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Posted: 2005-01-18 23:45
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@vee

I just noticed something interesting. When using SETool to remove sounds or change them into something else, like message alert 5 above, then there is actually another version of the old sound left inside the phone... and it plays too!

Here's the situation. If you replace message alert 5 with your own midi file then the new file plays "through the phones loudspeaker" BUT if you are making a phone call when you recieve an sms, then THE OLD SOUND IS PLAYED DURING THE CONVERSATION INSIDE THE PHONES SPEAKER and you can hear it!!!

This is very strange. There must be a duplicate version of each sound file stored somewhere inside the phones firmware that we don't know of!

The above also goes for the camera/video sound. If they are removed, then everything is working as you want, well almost, because if YOU MAKE A PHONE CALL AND TAKE A PICTURE WHILE ON THE PHONE THEN YOU WILL HEAR THE SOUND ANYWAY inside the small built in speaker to your ear (as above for message alerts that are changed). This proves that each sound has two different versions inside the phone: ONE FOR THE REAL LOUDSPEAKER WHEN OFF THE HOOK and ONE FOR THE SMALL LOUDSPEAKER DURING A PHONECALL!

1) Who has any theory where these sound files are stored (the path to them for a script to use with SETool) and/or 2) What format
are they in (.mid, amr or other)?

There are lot's of different sounds that plays during a phone call (like the sound for initiating the recording of the conversation) and they are NOT in the above list you posted vee! The sounds you posted only goes for the sounds that play in the phones "real" loudspeaker when you are NOT in a phone call.

[ This Message was edited by: CyberVisitor on 2005-01-18 22:50 ]
DCUK7
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Posted: 2005-01-19 01:02
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Well, that explains the AMR version of the camerashutter which I changed then found out the MIDI version is the one you must change. Where I am gonna find a camera shutter sound in MIDI format is beyond me but the T610 has it so it must be possible (I know I could delete the camera shutter but I want some sound on the shutter just not that default thing).

I have noticed that there are two versions of the sounds. I remember checking my e-mails and when I got a new one the message alert 1 came from the earpiece speaker.

I think you'd be hard pushed to guess where these files are!
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Posted: 2005-01-19 07:17
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@~DC:UK~

According to the log in SETool I managed to delete a file called camerashutter.amr (besides camerashutter.mid) but the camera sound is still there "in the backgeound" when making a phone call. So, any amr files with the same name in the same directory isn't the ones that are the "duplicate" ones...
vee
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Posted: 2005-01-19 11:12
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hi, I'll look around and let you know if I find soemthing interesting
DCUK7
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Posted: 2005-01-19 11:22
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I tested mine by dialing my voicemail and taking a picture and sure enough the camerashutter.amr I uploaded to my phone was the sound that I heard.

Maybe there are AMR versions of the sms tones, it might be worth trying a delete command on messagealert1.amr and see what happens. Obviously this would be better if the person had an unlimited account so it doesn't cost you anything.
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