Esato

Forum > Sony Ericsson / Sony > Accessories > Tips to care for your battery

Visitors browsing this topic: 1
Add to Bookmarks
Previous  123 ... 282930 ... 373839  Next
Author Tips to care for your battery
bodum
T650 Blue
Joined: Aug 14, 2005
Posts: > 500
From: Malaysia
PM
Posted: 2007-04-29 01:17
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
and a good night to you, mate. it's morning here BTW, very early in the morning.
SCre8or
W850 black
Joined: Feb 19, 2007
Posts: 24
From: Egypt
PM
Posted: 2007-04-29 17:28
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
thanx man GREAT topic , GREAT information
I success

like.no.other
Success Cre8or
asdisme
T68 gold
Joined: Apr 21, 2007
Posts: 8
PM
Posted: 2007-05-05 01:11
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
Im just wondering if theres something wrong with my batteries, i recharged it (while turned off) and in the morning when its fully charged and i turn the phone on, my batteries drop to 96%....

any suggestions? or is this normal?

thanks in advance
chtan
P800
Joined: Feb 06, 2003
Posts: 21
From: Malaysia
PM
Posted: 2007-05-07 07:22
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
Go to http://www.batteryuniversity.com/ to get the genuine fact of how to care for your battery. I can see that there is a lot of hear say in this thread, even the initial poster tip is somewhat off.
Aivar
T68i
Joined: Jan 14, 2003
Posts: > 500
From: Estonia
PM
Posted: 2007-05-07 09:54
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post

On 2007-05-05 01:11:46, asdisme wrote:
Im just wondering if theres something wrong with my batteries, i recharged it (while turned off) and in the morning when its fully charged and i turn the phone on, my batteries drop to 96%....

any suggestions? or is this normal?

thanks in advance


I can tell you about my experiences. I recently bought a new phone, K610i. I have charged it twice. First time 17 hours and the phone was on, second time 13 hours while the phone was off. Both times after I plugged the wire off, the phone showed battery status 100%. But for example now, after 11 hours of standby time and some calls and some other use it shows 90%.

max_wedge
Xperia Neo Black
Joined: Aug 29, 2004
Posts: > 500
From: Australia
PM, WWW
Posted: 2007-05-07 14:33
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post

On 2007-04-29 01:01:54, maggflodd wrote:

On 2007-04-29 00:53:54, bodum wrote:
why should one not use the phone while charging it? i talk on my k800 all the time while it's on charge, and why? cos' there's this bit at the bottom of the charger that allows me to plug my handsfree in. why would SE make such an 'innovation', if they know that it's harmful for the battery? so unless anyone has any scientific evidence why that harms the battery, i'm sticking to using my phone while charging.

and my battery has been great all along
my treo's manual goes on and on about charging as often as you can/for as long as possible...even "while using it" at the desk etc..."to extend battery life"...so what's that about???


With lithium batteries, the battery is only charged when it needs charging, it's not constantly trickle charged. So leaving the phone on the charger alot doesn't cause the phone to use up it's limited lifecycle earlier than necessary (this was a problem with older batteries).

Also, when the phone is fully charged, it stops charging until it drops below a certain level of charge. since it only charges when the battery drops below a certain level, if you use the phone while charging, the net affect on battery lifecycle is the same as if you turned the phone off, charged it until full, then used it for the same amount of time. Therefore there is no disadvantage in using it while charging.

For example, the battery drops below say 99% then tops up for a minute, then stops charging until it again drops below 99%. An old style battery would keep charging the whole time. The battery lifecycle is reduced whenever the battery is charging, so lithium batteries don't waste lifecycle charging the battery when it is allready full.

Of course the other important factor with lithium batteries is the absence of memory affect. Becuase they don't suffer memory affect, you can charge them or stop charging them at any point in the charge cycle without causing a memory affect that reduces the effective capacity of the battery (as happens with older batteries).

I charge my battery every night (with the phone on) and throught the day with the usb connection and it's not showing any sign of reduced capacity after 2 years. A NiMH battery would be dead by now with that kind of treatment. Lithium batteries are designed to overcome those old charging issues..
maggflodd
T630
Joined: Apr 20, 2006
Posts: > 500
From: <500
PM
Posted: 2007-05-07 14:38
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
Thanks Mr wedge, makes some SEnSE! Feel much more educateder now... No, really, thanks [addsig]
aatuif
R520
Joined: Sep 04, 2006
Posts: > 500
From: KASHMIR
PM, WWW
Posted: 2007-05-07 16:27
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
SE...n...SE
wow, that's cool, count...
bavlondon2
P1
Joined: Jan 28, 2006
Posts: > 500
PM
Posted: 2007-05-10 10:01
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
I charged my p990 battery up for the 1st time yesterday till it was full. I played around with it for only say 1/2 hour and it dopped a bit, not a lot but a bit.

Is this normal. I was only looking at the menus and trying to set up a new wlan account.

I didnt think you needed to do the charge and discharge thing with this phone, how have you other p990 owners faired? Could my abttery be faulty?

Thanks
fullthrottle
W660 Black
Joined: Feb 09, 2007
Posts: 43
From: Garden City!! Now Polluted
PM, WWW
Posted: 2007-05-10 10:21
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
dude the batries usually wear out!! hence u charge yr mobile before using it

this is common
Girls are like domain names, the ones I like are already taken..

there isn't only a hand full of chicks but a land full of 'm
bavlondon2
P1
Joined: Jan 28, 2006
Posts: > 500
PM
Posted: 2007-05-10 10:28
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
Yeah but should it drop a bit so quick after only 30mins of not even light usage?

I thought this was supposed to be a good battery life for this phone. Can bigger capacity batteries be bought for this?
bodum
T650 Blue
Joined: Aug 14, 2005
Posts: > 500
From: Malaysia
PM
Posted: 2007-05-11 07:40
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
it is common, the phone just needs a bit of time before it 'warms up'. a couple of charge cycles and you're good to go...
bavlondon2
P1
Joined: Jan 28, 2006
Posts: > 500
PM
Posted: 2007-05-11 23:53
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post

On 2007-05-11 07:40:26, bodum wrote:
it is common, the phone just needs a bit of time before it 'warms up'. a couple of charge cycles and you're good to go...


Thanks for the reply. By charge cycles do you mean using up the battery till its dead and then charging up again?
max_wedge
Xperia Neo Black
Joined: Aug 29, 2004
Posts: > 500
From: Australia
PM, WWW
Posted: 2007-05-12 05:21
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
No, charging and then using till dead, then fully charging again (deep cycling this is called) is only necessary in the old Nicad batteries.

Lithium batteries don't need to be deep cycled.

A charge cycle refers to a complete charge - but it needn't be all in one go.

Each batteries lifecycle is measured in how many times it can be charged up before the battery is worn out and can take no more charge. Lithium batteries don't need to be deep cycled, so you can count a full charge cycle as a series of small charging periods. For example if you charge the phone every night, and the battery only uses 20% during the day, it will take 5 nights to perform a full charge cycle.

_________________
File System Tweaks for the K750 K750 Tricks

[ This Message was edited by: max_wedge on 2007-05-12 04:24 ]
bavlondon2
P1
Joined: Jan 28, 2006
Posts: > 500
PM
Posted: 2007-05-12 21:17
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
Cool, thats what ive been doing.

Thanks
Access the forum with a mobile phone via esato.mobi
Previous  123 ... 282930 ... 373839  Next
Goto page:
Lock this Topic Move this Topic Delete this Topic