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bavlondon2
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Posted: 2008-02-21 18:12
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On 2008-02-18 15:53:50, benitorios wrote:
sorry to be a complete noob in these technical matters, but apart from possible better handling of video files, what are the likely benefits of an EMP processor over a Nexperia processor ?

Could it be faster even though they both have the same clock speed?


Can anyone answer this?


On 2008-02-21 09:46:21, n3o wrote:
its nice to hear G900 will be rund 300€...nice price!


Excellent price. Although the 6220 offers much the same functionaility + GPS for less.

Anyone know how much the G900 is supposed to be at launch?

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Posted: 2008-02-21 18:16
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You say the 6220 will offer more (except touch screen no???) for less, and then ask for the g900 price??? So, how can you say it offers more for less???

gsmarena says 300 euros for the G900...AFAIK, the 6220 will cost more than that, so i really donīt understand you...

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Posted: 2008-02-21 18:25
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6220 wont be that much. When I say more I mean 30fps VGA, Xenon flash, GPS, HSDPA.
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Posted: 2008-02-21 18:29
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I undersand what the 6220 brings...however...the price will be around 350 euros, according to AAS, not much more, but still more

Again, the G900 has some serious disadvantages over the 6220, namely the processor speed, maybe hsdpa and xenon flash, those two depend on who is buying the phone, (gps...well, that can be solved, the others donīt), but it does offer a touchscreen, meaning much better text input capabilities, for email/web/texting/notes

I mean, i think both the G series and the Nokia 6220 are great products, and will have their success and market, not necesseraly in direct competition
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Posted: 2008-02-21 19:59
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And lets not forget Nokia's GPS is just daft. Simply because you have to pay a monthly subscription to Nokia to use voice turn by turn instructions, just like you get free with a Tom Tom or Garmin device, let alone the lack of a touchscreen makes car satnav even more difficult plus the internal GPS units have to be used with Nokia's software and won't work with your Tom Tom. It's fine if your on foot but has major drawbacks if you want to use it in the car.

Hence why a touchscreen smart phone and Tom Tom software and a bluetooth GPS unit it the best solution for car Satnav in a car so far. But it is all a start and can only get better.
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Posted: 2008-02-21 20:30
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I just hope the new processor allows more types of H264 for video playback. H264 is very constrained on the W960.
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On 2008-02-17 08:50:15, mode wrote:
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I myself find it unlikely that the G-series will be a flop without HSDPA actually. But I don't think putting HSDPA in a cam phone and a walkman phone instead of SE's business smartphone models up to now is a marketing strategy. A good marketing strategy is incorporating the best technologies to the target group that would benefit most out of it. HSDPA is data technology, data technology is the lifeline of communication and communication is the name of SE's business. How can they brand a cutting edge data technology as "not yet viable" if they expect to be leaders in communication? HSDPA is too futuristic? Too ahead of its time? Too niche a market? C'mon we all know that to be highly unlikely, if it's not viable yet then it shouldn't be in any of SE's phones right now. The problem is technical which is UIQ and they're just not doing as much as they should. They happened to throw in WM and whaddaya know, the ever illusive HSDPA is now in a smartphone. Oh, btw it's also in a non-UIQ camphone (WTF?) and walkman phone (WTFF?). Go figure.


I agree the problem is probably a technically based issue with UIQ, but SE could solve it quicker if they thought it was necessary, by throwing more resources at the problem. Since they haven't bothered to max out the effort on fixing the problem just yet, I assume they don't think they will lose out too much by not having it in UIQ phones for the next 12 months.

I also think it's hardly likely that they turned to WM just to provide HSDPA in a smartphone. The WM strategy has nothing to do with HSDPA imho, but more to do with capturing some of the strong WM marketshare.

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Posted: 2008-02-22 02:51
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After seeing the preview from Gsmarena.com I feel a bit disappointed in the G900.

Considering it is supposed to be the older brother of the G700, why did it have to come with worse ergonomics (though this is relative) and not to mention no hot swappable memory card? I have never used a phone without hot swappable, and at this stage in the game where I am looking for my 10th , how can I go backwards like this?

I was hoping this would be the right phone for me...and to an extent I still think but I am now less confident.

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Posted: 2008-02-22 02:57
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@ JAGUY85

I try to never think of ergonomics until I have the device in MY hands as what you may find good and useable the next person may find awful and horrible. In regards to the hot swap memory cards, that's a feature I have to say personally I am glad not to have, never have and probably never will use it so what's the point? Ditch it and save money, of course if you do use it then it's gonna annoy you. What do you want to store on an 8GB memory card that you want to swap?
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Posted: 2008-02-22 03:07
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I am glad GSMArena had answered some of my queries on the G700 preview comments page.
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Posted: 2008-02-22 13:37
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GSMArena's G900 preview's clearly showing that the phone seems to be getting exactly the same camera module as in the K850i
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Posted: 2008-02-22 14:04
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do you honestly think they would put a better camera module than k850īs on a cheaper phone??? the better should be on the k850 successor...

on the other hand, it should be better than the P1/W960 sensor

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Posted: 2008-02-22 15:51
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it looks like the G900 and G700 white papers have been taken offline for quite a few days. Either they were released accidentally at first, or they've been taken offline for some downgrades, I fear (like was the case with the W960).

In GSMarena's review, it looks like the media player is quite basic, which is in direct contradiction with the WP which says the G900 features a W960-like music player with all options, including mood and ratings. That doesn't seem to be the case on the handset previewed by GSMarena.

Hopefully that won't be downgraded.
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Posted: 2008-02-22 17:36
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On 2008-02-22 14:04:50, ares wrote:
do you honestly think they would put a better camera module than k850īs on a cheaper phone??? the better should be on the k850 successor...

So you expect the G900 to be cheaper than the K850? That'd be good new indeed! If the price is right then I wouldn't mind the poor quality camera. I can always shoot in 2MP mode to improve quality, or resize and enhance in PC afterwards, like some people do in the K850 photos thread.
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Posted: 2008-02-22 18:23
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the price has been discussed before...around 300 euros...
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