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d-southwest
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Did someone notice that there is only one stereo speaker and is on the lefside !!!!!!!!!!!! | |
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marty mcfly
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On 2008-09-29 23:53:46, s32bauer wrote:
On 2008-09-29 22:27:00, Creid wrote:
rang o2 again they will have them for sale on the 6th. no news on what tariff or price
Do you mean O2 UK? If so, I'm really dubious. I would rather be on O2, as that's who I'm with at the moment. However, one of their stores told me that it's been put back to 2009, another told me they didn't even have it on their system. I have called O2 twice in the last week, and been told one time that they didn't have a release date, and when I called them yesterday I was told they would be getting it end of November, beginning of December.
O2 really don't seem to know what they are talking about. Let's hope their release date of 6th October is correct!
It's just typical of network call centres I'm afraid. Some staff are really clued up, but most don't know what on earth they are talking about.
You're best waiting for the official word from the website, but I can tell you there is no way this phone is delayed until next year.  |
mortengutt
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Xperia will be my first Windows Mobile phone, so I have a question: Does it use Realplayer to play movies in? If I want to transfer a video file from my mac to the phone, does it has to be a .avi file, or what video formats does the phone supports?
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canpel
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Has anybody received order confirmation email from expansys-us like the others in UK? |
ipporek
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Is it the final set or a prototype still?
The translated text showed this 'This is a prototype, we were advised that we do not run into any big test that before we start selling a lot more changes.' |
max_wedge
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On 2008-09-30 00:45:16, mortengutt wrote:
Xperia will be my first Windows Mobile phone, so I have a question: Does it use Realplayer to play movies in? If I want to transfer a video file from my mac to the phone, does it has to be a .avi file, or what video formats does the phone supports?
Thanks
it's a WM phone, you can install a player for anything you like. flv, ra, ram, mp4, divx, xvid, 3gp, mp3, aac, avi, mpg, amr, wav, mov, wmv, wma, etc etc etc 
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pinguino1
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On 2008-09-29 11:14:12, WhyBe wrote:
Well, internal memory is closer to the CPU. That alone would make it somewhat faster than external. Also it would depend upon the transfer rating of the card.
I guess it all boils down to what the OS is designed to handle, as far as memory addresses go.
I just came at the tail end of this memory topic. You are right, Why_be. Good explanation in a few words. However I think nobody used a very simple analogy: a computer arquitecture.
In simple terms the CPU gets the programs and data from the hard disk and put it in the RAM memory where it is executed.
The RAM allows super fast access to catch up to the clock speed of the CPU. The main purpose of the RAM is EXECUTION. - The Hard disk speed acccess is not even close to that of the RAM memory. The main purpose of the Hard disk is STORAGE.
In a phone the internal RAM is the working area. The external memory is similar to the hardisk.. - The RAM memory is volatile and super fast. The external is not volatile and slower.
Supporting your quote above here this more technical description:
How much memory, internal and external, can be addresed depends of the hardware design. - There is a CPU with an integral addressing register. How much memory you can address depends on the number of BITS in the register. - Then, very close, or actuaclly part of the CPU is the TEMPORARY cache memory, capable to run at the CPU speed. - Then through the addressing bus the cpu access the RAM (ramdom acccess memory). - and finally, usually there are SEPARATE addressing registers to access external memory AND other devices. How much? abain it depends of the bit size of the registers.
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***One last point: MORE external memory DOES NOT make the execution faster.****
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pinguino1
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Thanks for the link, lcrkz0023,
It feels good when people speak out, not in secrecy. |
pinguino1
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On 2008-09-30 00:06:40, d-southwest wrote:
Did someone notice that there is only one stereo speaker and is on the lefside !!!!!!!!!!!!
I think this is a proto. I saw a v ery detail video where they point out to the 2 speakers. |
l337h1um
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On 2008-09-29 12:50:51, WhyBe wrote:
Is the WM7 delay being reported by the same people that reported the X1 delays? 
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djin
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I better hope X1i's speaker are good and loud. pro's speakers suck and too low. |
max_wedge
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On 2008-09-30 02:28:03, pinguino2 wrote:
On 2008-09-29 11:14:12, WhyBe wrote:
Well, internal memory is closer to the CPU. That alone would make it somewhat faster than external. Also it would depend upon the transfer rating of the card.
I guess it all boils down to what the OS is designed to handle, as far as memory addresses go.
I just came at the tail end of this memory topic. You are right, Why_be. Good explanation in a few words. However I think nobody used a very simple analogy: a computer arquitecture.
In simple terms the CPU gets the programs and data from the hard disk and put it in the RAM memory where it is executed.
The RAM allows super fast access to catch up to the clock speed of the CPU. The main purpose of the RAM is EXECUTION. - The Hard disk speed acccess is not even close to that of the RAM memory. The main purpose of the Hard disk is STORAGE.
In a phone the internal RAM is the working area. The external memory is similar to the hardisk.. - The RAM memory is volatile and super fast. The external is not volatile and slower.
Supporting your quote above here this more technical description:
How much memory, internal and external, can be addresed depends of the hardware design. - There is a CPU with an integral addressing register. How much memory you can address depends on the number of BITS in the register. - Then, very close, or actuaclly part of the CPU is the TEMPORARY cache memory, capable to run at the CPU speed. - Then through the addressing bus the cpu access the RAM (ramdom acccess memory). - and finally, usually there are SEPARATE addressing registers to access external memory AND other devices. How much? abain it depends of the bit size of the registers.
Great info. Do you know if the internal memory (not ram, but the internal storage) is faster than the external memory?
btw, I found out something interesting today: SDHC memory is artificially limited to 32GB by the SDHC standard. With a simple change to the standard for how SDHC memory capacity is read by a device, up to 2048GB can be addressed! That's 2TB
So maybe when SDHC tops out at 32GB, they will revise the standard, and it would be possible to allow existing devices to address over 32GB simply through a firmware update.
I fully believe current processors and memory architecture will support up to 32GB, without a doubt. (especially since the SDHC physical architecture itself supports up to 2048GB of addressable memory space)
The artificial limit on SDHC is per device ie: each memory card is limited to 32GB, not the total addressable memory space (if you had two SDHC slots for example, each one would be limited to 32GB, ie: 64GB total).
1. internal memory is not SDHC so can be as large as the OEM decides it to be (it's not artificially limited), and
2. the external SDHC memory is limited to 32GB
So if the innov cannot address 16GB internal +32GB sdhc memory concurrently, I will add "flawed knowledge of memory architecture" to the I am not as smart as a 5th grader thread I promised to start if X1 does not support handwriting recognition
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pinguino1
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On 2008-09-30 05:02:04, max_wedge wrote:
Great info. Do you know if the internal memory (not ram, but the internal storage) is faster than the external memory?
I don't know. I suspect is about the same. In any event it wouldn't make a dramatic difference because the important one is the RAM where all the processing, calculations etc. happens at lightning speeds. While the storage memory (internal or external) is acccessed once to move data into RAM. Of course the faster the access the better.
That's why I stated in the previous post that more storage memory (internal or external) can not make a device faster. But the X1 384MB RAM it indeed, makes it very fast.
btw, I found out something interesting today: SDHC memory is artificially limited to 32GB by the SDHC standard. With a simple change to the standard for how SDHC memory capacity is read by a device, up to 2048GB can be addressed! That's 2TB
Right, but I wouldn't use the word artificial. It is a hardware design decision, based on the amount of resourcess necessary to access a great amount of memory and possibly also based on the technology of current memory devices. For instance: it wouldn't make sense to add the harware/resources in a tight form factor for a a 2 TB device that doesn't exist yet.
If I have to choose beween internal 8/16 GB (iphone, Diamond) or external memory, I would pick the external every day of the week. I can have multiple chips and swap them or transfer to other device or laptop.
(It will be better to have both. he he)
I am not as smart as a 5th grader thread I promised to start if X1 does not support handwriting recognition
I'm with you, That's a feature I don't want to miss.
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djin
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It does support handwriting recognition. |
strizlow800
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Well it should... All new  phones with touchscreen support that feature (P990, P1, W960 and etc...) so X2 should have it too. It has touchscreen, stylus so why not handwriting recognition too?:D
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Posted: 2008-09-30 00:06
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