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The All New Sony Ericsson Portfolio for 2011 |
randomuser
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Guys please do not compare Apple with  . Apple is almost a religion and not a "brand". So comparing Apple hardware/software with is nothing but stupidity.
Iphone users are probably the greatest loyal fan base in the mobile market, do have that to get away with sub par hardware and features? NO!
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lolstebbo
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On 2011-09-22 13:23:54, randomuser wrote:
And software/user experience is not the best either. HTC sense is superior to UI.
Sense and TouchWiz take a very different approach towards skinning Android than what SE's 2011 interface does. Whereas HTC and Samsung are using Android more for its ecosystem and completely using their own UI, SE's is one of the lightest as far as customizations go. So like what Razec says, this allows SE to push out updates much more quickly for the 2011 Xperias than HTC and Samsung. Unfortunately, this comes at the expense of significant differentiation and unique features. But it doesn't make SE's any less functional. |
razec
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On 2011-09-23 05:21:19, randomuser wrote:
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Guys please do not compare Apple with . Apple is almost a religion and not a "brand". So comparing Apple hardware/software with is nothing but stupidity.
Iphone users are probably the greatest loyal fan base in the mobile market, do have that to get away with sub par hardware and features? NO!
So stop all these baseless comparisons.
There were some points in your argument that are not true. Admit it or not the current iPhone user base right now is composed not just by the Apple ultraloyalists. In fact my friends (who are examples of non-technical people unlike us) have only heard about Apple when i told them that the iPhone, iPods and Macbooks were made by the Apple Inc. even our beloved masseur here in esato owns an iPhone even when he himself is not a loyal fan of Apple. i personally hate Apple as a brand but that doesn't stop me from saying that iphone 4 is simple and beautiful. and Samsung wants to capitalize on what people sees as the trend thats why they made several attempts at imitating iphone's form and UI styling that later backfires. it's your argument that makes no sense imho. I find the hardware on Arc and other Xperia phones fine, the only model that disappointed me was the Play as i believe Adreno 205 is not enough to make the ultimate mobile gaming machine, they should've gone for an SoC that's got faster GPU.
[ This Message was edited by: razec on 2011-09-23 04:45 ] 10 years at Esato |
masseur
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totally agree with razec
... and even if Apple was a "religion" (see discussion of that here) that doesn't stop their actual hardware and software being objectively compared with hardware and software of other companies 
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randomuser
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The problem is most members here are fanboys (me included) but that does not mean we become overly optimistic and equate with Apple.
The profits/sales/market share of Apple and are proof of that fact. Tell me one reason why an average joe should buy a dual core nozomi when he can buy quad core/faster duak core Samsung/HTC/Iphone5 ? And sadly now the camera edge of phones is also lost so saying "superior" camera also won't cut it.
Heck, even Sony Android walkman seems as powerful as Nozomi!!!!!
And I have yet to hear any reviewer/users say that they think SE Android UXP is the best and better than HTC Sense.
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pmugghc
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Nvidia has published a couple of white papers for their quad core. Interesting, it's actually using LESS power than a comparable dual-core!
http://www.nvidia.com/content[....]ers/tegra-whitepaper-0911b.pdf
http://www.nvidia.com/content[....]ers/tegra-whitepaper-0911a.pdf |
Indiandawg
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On 2011-09-23 10:51:11, randomuser wrote:
The problem is most members here are fanboys (me included) but that does not mean we become overly optimistic and equate with Apple.
The profits/sales/market share of Apple and are proof of that fact. Tell me one reason why an average joe should buy a dual core nozomi when he can buy quad core/faster duak core Samsung/HTC/Iphone5 ? And sadly now the camera edge of phones is also lost so saying "superior" camera also won't cut it.
Heck, even Sony Android walkman seems as powerful as Nozomi!!!!!
And I have yet to hear any reviewer/users say that they think SE Android UXP is the best and better than HTC Sense.
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2011-09-23 09:52 ]
Forget HTC/Samsung users, I've had iPhone users saying my previous phone X10 had the best UXP they had ever seen. When SE released Facebook inside, they all wanted that feature.
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There is only 1 drawback and 1 complaint against SE, hardware!
SE is indeed the best and I'm not a fan boy of any product or OS. A good product is when everything meets 9/10, if not 10/10. With Samsung and HTC, the design is too plain and if this generation is looking for OS updates with lot's of features and also faster hardware, they are also looking for design which only SE and Apple understands in the whole mobile industry, while SE understands even better than Apple.
Market shares and other stuff does not matter. It's for now and not forever. I had said this thing before, once the hardware boost bubble will burst, everybody is going to look for a phone like Arc or Neo. Cause these phones make sense. They worth it. When one spends on a product, they want it to feel nice about what they got. It's called the experience of having that product and majority of SE users will tell you, they had a good time with the phone they had. Of course specs do matter and SE is not far behind. They are just lacking hardware and I'm sure there has to be a reason behind it.
Look at Apple, when they had those colorful monitors at start, it looked spectacular but nobody went for it. Nobody really accepted cause Windows was all around and everybody found it too hard to leave windows just for that colorful monitors. After a decade, people have accepted Apple.
It's the trend, even if you get the best product according to you, it won't sell if it's out at the wrong time. SE badly needs to come out with a powerful hardware smartphone cause that's the trend. Even so many users out here don't much give a damn about the design that makes so much of difference while using the phone. It changes the whole experience of using the phone. But that's not the trend. The trend is to have a fast phone, snappy, quick, responsive and able to customize and tweak anything you want. It just goes like that with majority of the people around the world.
T200 -> T68i -> T610 -> K700i -> P910i -> W800i -> P990i -> M600i -> P1-> Nokia E71 -> X1i -> X10 -> Arc S -> Sony Z1 -> Sony Z Ultra -> Sony Z3+ -> iPhone 6 -> iPhone 7 Plus -> iPhone X -> iPhone XS Max |
motvikt
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Nice! Funny, HTC not only beats SE when it comes to qualcomm, but also when it come to ST ericsson  |
pmugghc
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Strange, Reuters site claims it's a A9500, dual core running at 1GHz:
http://www.reuters.com/articl[....]S25004+26-Sep-2011+HUG20110926 |
motvikt
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http://www.stericsson.com/press_releases/HTC_sensation.jsp
I think its safe to say it will be 9500  |
smclion102
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Will Make Windows 7.5 Phone?? Can we Expect Next Year 2012??
So many Manufacture's started making them .. Wish Show there Windows Phone at MWC.. |
HxH
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All I want to say is DAMN!!
must step up their own game.
why they let this happen?
[ This Message was edited by: HxH on 2011-09-26 18:15 ] SONY x Sexy x Sleek x Solid x Stunner x Stylish : Nozomi/Kagura with Love. |
smclion102
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" Was founded on OCT 1,2001" 
OCTOBER 1 in Another 4/5days 10 years Anniversary celebration ??? ... Will we see any Surprise ?? Hopefully yes !!! Finger's Crossed 
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Anybody Got any News ? any Rumors ?? Anything??
10 years Anniversary and Why is the Forum so Quite ?? the Whole Forum seems to be Frozen 
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goldenface
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Might be a good time to have a 10th Anniversary Playtime. 
No rumours as to whether there was going to be 10th anniversary announcement.
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jack00
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On 2011-09-26 21:06:35, goldenface wrote:
Might be a good time to have a 10th Anniversary Playtime.
No rumours as to whether there was going to be 10th anniversary announcement.
do they have anything to celebrate ?
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