| Author |
Sony Xperia Z1 |
MusaD.Dragon
Joined: Jun 23, 2013
Posts: 226
PM |
Man I came from a Note II, I just played the Simpsons tapped out on my z1, holy shet the graphics, this is a whole other level compared to the Note II | |
|
Bonovox
Joined: Apr 13, 2008
Posts: > 500
PM |
@CrownedAkuma what the hell made you thought I was going back to Nokia Windows Phone?? I don't want to anymore. And stop saying let's see how much this one lasts. I signed up to a deal to get the Z1 and it turns out to be yet another poor Sony. The Note 3 is far far better than the Note 2 and way better than Z1 imo. Am not the only one on here who changes a lot. But am not signing up to a deal with a sub par phone.
Phone?? What phone?? |
CrownedAkuma
Joined: Jun 28, 2013
Posts: > 500
From: North-East Italy
PM |
On 2013-11-09 23:23:00, Bonovox wrote:
@CrownedAkuma what the hell made you thought I was going back to Nokia Windows Phone?? I don't want to anymore. And stop saying let's see how much this one lasts. I signed up to a deal to get the Z1 and it turns out to be yet another poor Sony. The Note 3 is far far better than the Note 2 and way better than Z1 imo. Am not the only one on here who changes a lot. But am not signing up to a deal with a sub par phone.
Just based on the only info I had: the fact that you care about Photo quality! And surely photo quality can be found on Pureview Unit!  I was not bashing nor biasing! I do not have the Z1 (but I'll have) let's say I'm collecting impression of the phone by some forums and as of now It is 45 happy and 9 sad! It's not a perfect score but it's good:P surely you had a bad, really bad experience! But I think you have not so much patience... You bought the phone and was happy as baby on Christmas... Then you flashed it and it all went down a cliff in zero time! Have you at least tried what the others users were advising you?I don't think so! But this is subjective you burned yourself with the Z1 and wanted to change! I understand that!:P good luck with your note III!! It's a GREAT phone! With a lot (battery life, screen, functionality...) better than the Z1! Probably you made the right choice:)
Still I will do a mistake and buy the Z1... I fell in love the first time I hold it! |
Bonovox
Joined: Apr 13, 2008
Posts: > 500
PM |
Ok fair enough but for me Nokia doesn't always make the best cameras
Phone?? What phone?? |
CrownedAkuma
Joined: Jun 28, 2013
Posts: > 500
From: North-East Italy
PM |
On 2013-11-10 00:24:00, Bonovox wrote:
Ok fair enough but for me Nokia doesn't always make the best cameras
Surely but as of now the CAMERPHONE kings are on Nokia side... The 1020 has, let's face it, GREAT photo and potential... And the 808 even if hold is still the master when it comes to Photo! And in 2nd position there's Apple! I do not like their iOS and their phones but they have great camera software! As for Sony they have always been crappy on the software side... And this is real! Look at the software inside cameras, tvs, ps3 (especially if put against the 360) and phones! But they are growing fast! Their UI has done GIANT leap from the Ericsson time! On the other side thier hardware has always been rock solid! my ps3 died just this summer and it was a 60GB Fat! And my 5 years bravia is still working perfectly... They show the inside of the Ps4 and it's TechnoPornography... Cutting edge architecture assembled with experience! that's the only reason I'm trusting sony...I sadly believe that sadly there will be no BIG UPDATE for the camera in Z1... But I'm still hoping for it to come out with 4.3 or 4.4... Once on a while return to this thread to see if something has changed:P
[ This Message was edited by: CrownedAkuma on 2013-11-09 23:37 ] |
Gitaroo
Joined: Aug 17, 2013
Posts: > 500
PM |
On 2013-11-10 00:36:11, CrownedAkuma wrote:
On 2013-11-10 00:24:00, Bonovox wrote:
Ok fair enough but for me Nokia doesn't always make the best cameras
Surely but as of now the CAMERPHONE kings are on Nokia side... The 1020 has, let's face it, GREAT photo and potential... And the 808 even if hold is still the master when it comes to Photo! And in 2nd position there's Apple! I do not like their iOS and their phones but they have great camera software! As for Sony they have always been crappy on the software side... And this is real! Look at the software inside cameras, tvs, ps3 (especially if put against the 360) and phones! But they are growing fast! Their UI has done GIANT leap from the Ericsson time! On the other side thier hardware has always been rock solid! my ps3 died just this summer and it was a 60GB Fat! And my 5 years bravia is still working perfectly... They show the inside of the Ps4 and it's TechnoPornography... Cutting edge architecture assembled with experience! that's the only reason I'm trusting sony...I sadly believe that sadly there will be no BIG UPDATE for the camera in Z1... But I'm still hoping for it to come out with 4.3 or 4.4... Once on a while return to this thread to see if something has changed:P
[ This Message was edited by: CrownedAkuma on 2013-11-09 23:37 ]
I say I would give it 1 more firmware update or at least the next one to see the different, if ZOMG was right, next one should or will introduce a new jpeg compression from the current 80% up to 3 level, normal 80%, Fine 60% and Ultra Fine at 50%. 50% means double the file size. Funny that I pull out my old S3 and took some a shot at ISO 100, 8MP setting under the same light condition and everything at the same thing a few times, the S3 photos were around 3.4-3.6 MB, then I took a shot with my Z1 in the same setting I was surprise that the file size was only 2.6 - 2.8MB. While I can carely see more detail retaining in the Z1 shots but the compression artifacts was pretty bad. Only way to minimize those is take a full 20 MP shot and downsample it to 8MP manually which still give a much better result than S3. I think Sony compress too much and then they added some sort of imagine sharpening which doesn't help the picture at all. In some rare occasion it may help but most of the time it only make the compressions artifacts even more noticeable. I hope they will add RAW support too. I am not giving free pass for Sony here even if it does ended up with a huge boost in quality or best camera in android OS eventually .This is something that should have been done on day 1 when the phone released, they deserve all the criticism they are getting from users or reviewers. |
McKinley
Joined: Feb 23, 2004
Posts: > 500
From: Sweden, USA Los Angeles CA
PM |
On 2013-11-09 23:23:00, Bonovox wrote:
@CrownedAkuma what the hell made you thought I was going back to Nokia Windows Phone?? I don't want to anymore. And stop saying let's see how much this one lasts. I signed up to a deal to get the Z1 and it turns out to be yet another poor Sony. The Note 3 is far far better than the Note 2 and way better than Z1 imo. Am not the only one on here who changes a lot. But am not signing up to a deal with a sub par phone.
Congratulation for your decision Bonovox.
I have been using Note 3 now for almost a month and it was the best decision I made for this generation phone.
Just like you, I returned my Z1 for the Note 3 instead.
I'm happy with it and I don't want to express my happiness in here to stir some feelings.
[ This Message was edited by: McKinley on 2013-11-10 05:33 ]  GH688, T28, T39 and T68 Nokia 6110, 8110, 8850, 6230, N82 Moto V525 and RAZR V3 Samsung T100, S300 and E700  T68, T610, Z600, T630, K700, S700, V800, K750, S600, M600, S500, P1i, K850, X1 X10, Vivaz |
CrownedAkuma
Joined: Jun 28, 2013
Posts: > 500
From: North-East Italy
PM |
On 2013-11-10 04:45:17, Gitaroo wrote:
I say I would give it 1 more firmware update or at least the next one to see the different, if ZOMG was right, next one should or will introduce a new jpeg compression from the current 80% up to 3 level, normal 80%, Fine 60% and Ultra Fine at 50%. 50% means double the file size. Funny that I pull out my old S3 and took some a shot at ISO 100, 8MP setting under the same light condition and everything at the same thing a few times, the S3 photos were around 3.4-3.6 MB, then I took a shot with my Z1 in the same setting I was surprise that the file size was only 2.6 - 2.8MB. While I can carely see more detail retaining in the Z1 shots but the compression artifacts was pretty bad. Only way to minimize those is take a full 20 MP shot and downsample it to 8MP manually which still give a much better result than S3. I think Sony compress too much and then they added some sort of imagine sharpening which doesn't help the picture at all. In some rare occasion it may help but most of the time it only make the compressions artifacts even more noticeable. I hope they will add RAW support too. I am not giving free pass for Sony here even if it does ended up with a huge boost in quality or best camera in android OS eventually .This is something that should have been done on day 1 when the phone released, they deserve all the criticism they are getting from users or reviewers.
I really hope so! 
[ This Message was edited by: CrownedAkuma on 2013-11-10 07:55 ] |
rikken
Joined: Feb 23, 2007
Posts: > 500
From: Norway
PM |
Sold my Z1, camera on that phone is no more than avarage, not worthy a flagship  Waiting for an update is not good enough. It is always that way with Sony, the next update, the next phone etc. No more Sony for me  My Note 3 is miles ahead in every aspect
|
doministry
Joined: Apr 13, 2007
Posts: > 500
From: PL
PM, WWW
|
On 2013-11-10 10:42:00, rikken wrote:
Sold my Z1, camera on that phone is no more than avarage, not worthy a flagship Waiting for an update is not good enough. It is always that way with Sony, the next update, the next phone etc. No more Sony for me My Note 3 is miles ahead in every aspect
I think beeing happy with the device is never a bad feeling isn't it.
However saying cr...p is another thing. But we can't avoid it.
Pity you can't use the Z1 camera beeing clearly better than Note 3.
@Bonnovox
I bet you'll switch the phone next month, just like with any other occasion. It's not even about the phone, it's about you.
[ This Message was edited by: doministry on 2013-11-10 10:23 ] a w a r e |
hello1000
Joined: Nov 10, 2013
Posts: 149
PM |
On 2013-11-10 10:42:00, rikken wrote:
Sold my Z1, camera on that phone is no more than avarage, not worthy a flagship Waiting for an update is not good enough. It is always that way with Sony, the next update, the next phone etc. No more Sony for me My Note 3 is miles ahead in every aspect
For the same reason that i sell my note 3, it's the same boring design like always plastics end cheap feeling in your hand.
The screen is not that nice, to much exaggerated colors and not that bright like the Z1 has.
Second, the camera is good with a lot software what i never use all the time, just a gimmick, the cam of the Z1 is much more better in dark and outdoor in every aspect, the manual setting and the 20.7 cam is awesome.
Third, video recording of the Note is good, but the sound is not that better and i has 4K recording, just useless feature.
You cant see the different on a screen of the device, and some time it lagging. The Z1 has perfect video recording quality, no zoom is not needed.
Four, Skin of the OS, man what a lagging in some time with the touch wizard of the Note 3, not that smooth at all, while Sony own skin is smooth and not single lag in it.
Five, battery life is good little bit better that the Z1, i very content with the battery life of the Z1, only some heat issues in some time, next update it will be fixed.
Six, My Z1 is a little bit faster than the Note 3 antuntu tester, but in practice is the Z1 miles faster than Note 3 that's a fact.
Seven, i love that water and dust proof solid build quality of the Z1, Note 3 very weak you drop Note 3 it will break guaranteed, not with the Z1, very solid phone.
Eight, the price of the Note 3 is very overpriced for a cheap plastic feeling phone, while for a lower price you get a very solid water/dust proof Z1.
All those Sammy boys above me with their stupid and no single arguments about that Note 3 is miles ahead than Z1 is just silly and plain stupid.
You Sammie fans needs a real test those devices , not just talking shit on the Z1 topic just to promote Samsung.
Z1 is almost every single just like my arguments above better phone, and people like you just said miles ahead, poor Sammie boys.
Stick with your beloved Samsung and get the hell out of this topic to promote Samsung shit.
You guys are very annoying, without fact just blabbing shit all about Z1 how bad or poor Sony is  |
CrownedAkuma
Joined: Jun 28, 2013
Posts: > 500
From: North-East Italy
PM |
LOL 
Great supporters here 
Let's not just start a war, there's no need too...
everybody has their taste! for me Design, UI experience, materials and IP 55/58 are way above 4k recording, S-pen or gimmicky eyes reading software... but these are just tastes  we like the Z1 they like the Note 3
Just stay calm! we will be happy with our Z1 (with them thinking how foolish we are)
They will be happy with their Note 3 (with us thinking how foolish they are)...
everybody is happy without being rude  |
hello1000
Joined: Nov 10, 2013
Posts: 149
PM |
On 2013-11-10 12:01:27, CrownedAkuma wrote:
LOL
Great supporters here
Let's not just start a war, there's no need too...
everybody has their taste! for me Design, UI experience, materials and IP 55/58 are way above 4k recording, S-pen or gimmicky eyes reading software... but these are just tastes we like the Z1 they like the Note 3
Just stay calm! we will be happy with our Z1 (with them thinking how foolish we are)
They will be happy with their Note 3 (with us thinking how foolish they are)...
everybody is happy without being rude
I will be calm , it's just always those stupid Sammie boys come here and make Z1 stupid for no reason 
|
Shino03
Joined: Dec 22, 2008
Posts: > 500
From: Pearl of the Orient Seas
PM |
Yeah, I think we should just respect each other's taste after all, both the z1 and note 3 have their own ups and downs |
CrownedAkuma
Joined: Jun 28, 2013
Posts: > 500
From: North-East Italy
PM |
On 2013-11-10 12:08:39, hello1000 wrote:
I will be calm , it's just always those stupid Sammie boys come here and make Z1 stupid for no reason
Good
Btw I laughed so hard reading "Sammie Boys" I almost fall from my chair! have you ever seen grease? there's a song that fits perfectly with "Sammie boys Samme boys please stop talking crap, Sammie Boys Sammie boys just get out of the thread... uh uh... ah ah..." ROFL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXlnMveRt-Y
[ This Message was edited by: CrownedAkuma on 2013-11-10 11:18 ] | |
|
Access the forum with a mobile phone via esato.mobi
|
Posted: 2013-11-09 21:23
GH688, T28, T39 and T68
T68, T610, Z600, T630, K700, S700, V800, K750, S600, M600, S500, P1i, K850, X1 X10, Vivaz
