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K850i vs N95 pic quality |
soane28
Joined: Jun 12, 2006
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From: NZ
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this thread is still going?!?!?!
now your showing pics of the N73 and talking about the phones capabilities rather than the thread title "N95 vs K850 cam quality" .
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$herry
Joined: Jun 17, 2007
Posts: 478
From: Pakistan
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Cant a poor kid with a bottom-of-the-line n73 show off somewhere?  |
masseur
Joined: Jan 03, 2003
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From: Sydney, London
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yes... in the appropriate place
please keep to topic in this thread
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DarKMaGiCiaN
Joined: Aug 25, 2006
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can I add some pics from my K750 ^_*
back to topic
as I said the good thing about k850 camera is you control the final result
not the camera
same angal same shot can be completely defferent result like this shot
normal shot
with some tricks
and maybe more
and for who say that the k850i takes noisy shots
I'll say that professional photographers use software for fixing this problem in some of their shots
I know lots of software that fix this problem but I dont know any software that fix the problem that N95 have ( the losing of the details )
look to this pic
I edit it with Photo Dj which is in the mobile
I got this
yes it has lots of noise becaise of the contrast and the vivid color
but I can correct this problem using neat image
and this is the resul
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mib1800
Joined: Mar 18, 2004
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@darkmagician:
By itself, K850i most probably takes good photo. Since your photo is shrunken and there is no corresponding N95 shots of the same scene, I dont see the point your post as there is no way we can compare and judge which is better. You might as well post your photo in the "post your K850 photo thread".
I know lots of software that fix this problem but I dont know any software that fix the problem that N95 have ( the losing of the details )
From quite a few comparison shots, even in its processed state N95 pict still have more details than K850 like the following. You just can't squeeze detail out of K850 (using software fix) when there is none to begin with.
N95 http://smape.com/image.php?im[....]on/K850i/cam/Nokia_N95_012.jpg
K850i http://smape.com/image.php?im[....]cam/SonyEricsson_K850i_013.JPG
N95 http://mobilarena.hu/dl/rev/2007-09/1716/n952.jpg
K850i http://mobilarena.hu/dl/rev/2007-09/1716/k850i2.jpg |
BobaFett
Joined: Jan 06, 2004
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From: Kamino (wish it would be Lund)
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On 2007-11-11 10:45:43, plankgatan wrote:
this thread will go on forever............
im so glad that i dont have N95, its such a ugly phone......Nokia have failed bigtime with design.....it feels realy cheap....
might be ugly and feel cheap ( agree, very poor built quality ), but still, i see far more n95 as k850 at ppl...
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DarKMaGiCiaN
Joined: Aug 25, 2006
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@mib1800
is it wrong to post K850i pics in "K850i vs N95 pic quality" thread ?
while it is Ok for N73 people to post their pics here ?
I dont know why you hate this mobile phone !!!
from all your posts I can admit that you hate this phone and you dont want to change your mind
back to topic ^_*
@mib1800
the bad quality of the pics that you post is because the white balance
with small changes the quality can be better
I'll say it again
give a normal person a normal digital camera and SLR camera and let him compair the result
then give the two cameras to a professional photographer and let him take the pics and compair the result
and let me know which camera the normal person will choose and which camera will the professional photographer choose
mmm now let check the details
it is clear here
http://www.gsmarena.com/showp[....]/crops/gsmarena_crop_009_2.jpg
and check the trees here ^_*
http://www.gsmarena.com/showp[....]50/crops/gsmarena_crop_005.jpg
here as will
N95 K850
and here
N95 K850
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joemax
Joined: Nov 05, 2007
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@ DarKMaGiCiaN
Yep... K850 looks far better there  |
plankgatan
Joined: May 20, 2007
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From: Sweden fur alle
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im surprised.....gsmarena who nearly allways end up with perfect Nokia compare pictures (dont ask me why, maybe the photographer enjoy Nokia more or something..ha ha), have for the first time pictures from a Nokia phone (N95) who looks worse..(both the sand & the trees is more blurry)...
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AbuBasim
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On 2007-11-12 20:04:36, plankgatan wrote:
im surprised.....gsmarena who nearly allways end up with perfect Nokia compare pictures
I don't agree. Look at their N90 vs W800 shootout, to see how the W800 rips the N90 a new corn-hole in almost every sample!
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chombos1
Joined: Jun 06, 2007
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From: IRAN.
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@mib1800
do you own a K850?
and i like to ask you why all of the samples you post are from smape.com and mobilearena.hu
i don't say that these web sites are providing wrong comparisons (not at all... as these two are sources i use alot) maybe they have a faulty unit in their hand... or something else.
but i see comparisons done by mobile-review and gsmarena have better K850 pics.(even K850 is declared the winner in MR).
and as i tested a K850 for 2 weeks.. i could take realy sharp pics at all situations (maybe those unsharp pics you post are of a AF fault)
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joemax
Joined: Nov 05, 2007
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On 2007-11-12 21:12:05, chombos1 wrote:
@mib1800
do you own a K850?
or an actual phone ??  |
mib1800
Joined: Mar 18, 2004
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@DarKMaGiCiaN:
I dont know why you hate this mobile phone !!!
I dont hate this phone. I just dont understand why some people are so smitten by this phone that they are willing to twist the reality to make the K850 something that it is not.
the bad quality of the pics that you post is because the white balance
with small changes the quality can be better
So you are just speculating? 
mmm now let check the details
So what? Some shots by K850 gives more details (but with all the wrong color  ). I have also shown you some shots where N95 has more details. But YOU are the one who blatantly generalised that K850 shots have more details .
@chombos1
and i like to ask you why all of the samples you post are from smape.com and mobilearena.hu
i don't say that these web sites are providing wrong comparisons (not at all... as these two are sources i use alot) maybe they have a faulty unit in their hand... or something else.
Yeah...maybe all the following websites also got faulty K850 unit. Lotto day anyone??
http://www.phonearena.com/htm[....]-Review-review-r_1846-p_5.html
We are disappointed by the Sony Ericsson K850 and how it performs as a camera. Really, considering it is the top Cyber-shot branded phone, it should be one of the best on the market, but the comparison with the old N95 and the G600 shows different things.
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_[....]50_vs_nokia_n95-review-162.php
In this heavy-weight championship series the Sony Ericsson K850 managed to collect a total of 31 points, while the Nokia N95 managed to beat it by a slight margin with a total of 34 points. Those numbers are indicative only and you should give more weight to the results of the tests that matter most to you. It was a close call, but this time we prefer the Nokia model.
http://smape.com/en/reviews/n[....]Ericsson_K850ivsNokia_N95.html
Sony Ericsson were able to design a well-balanced 5 Mpix camera phone which isn’t bad at all at taking pictures but it has very few advantages over the N95 while the latter was able to beat its competitor in quite a number of tests.
http://www.phonedaily.com/news/?news_id=6166
translated...N95 relatively stronger/better color and showing more photo details gives N95 a small win (over K850)
http://mobilarena.hu/teszt/no[....]es_csata/na_akkor_a_kepek.html
http://mobil.idnes.cz/sony-er[....]24_212325_mob_sonyericsson_vok
joemax
or an actual phone ??
I think you are so infatuated with K850 that you came out with such lame joke. . pls...pls...wake up.
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soane28
Joined: Jun 12, 2006
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From: NZ
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notice that all of these reviews are with auto settings.
Whats hard about pressing the d pad twice to lower the exposure to -0.7? Or changing the white balance? Isnt that the point of using settings?
IMO sony ericsson are trying to encourage users to use these settings, i mean thats what they are there for.
Whereas nokia make their camera idiot proof and give their auto setting the only setting you really need to get a great shot.
Once again (x100) it comes down to personal preference. Thats why everyone repeats their opinion over and over again, frustrated that another person thinks differently.
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mib1800
Joined: Mar 18, 2004
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N95 also have a lot of settings to fiddle. If I dont like the pict to oversharpen (which many K850 fans said is the achilles heel of N95 ), I can always set the "sharpness" level to low to reduce the oversharpen effect. btw: if I am not mistaken there is no "sharpness" setting in K850. what a bummer that you need to process K850 photo in the PC everytime
Like I say before, there was a bug in the early N95 camera firmware which auto-reset the sharpness to high (instead of medium) when you adjust any of the camera settings. This is why some of the N95 shots are so sharpened (esp. mobile-review.com review which was done very early on)
N95 sharpness = soft, medium, hard (100% crop)
http://img98.imageshack.us/my.php?image=13112007550al2.jpg
http://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=13112007552wp2.jpg
http://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=13112007555js2.jpg
Looking at the above, it can be seen that when sharpness is set to low, we dont see of the sharpening effect that some are complaining vehemently about the N95.
However the chromatic abberations of K850 such as purple fringing is not solvable by firmware as it is due to crappy lens. We see none of this in N95 photos. Also, under the same condition, noise level in K850 will be generally higher than N95 due to its smaller lens.
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