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DACHA
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Posted: 2013-02-02 21:11
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On 2013-02-02 19:41:18, motvikt wrote:

On 2013-02-02 13:45:19, Detox wrote:
Qualcomm's APQ8084 leaks:
- Four Krait cores running at 2.3GHz
- Adreno 420
- 802.11ac component
- Capable of pixel fill rates of 4000 Mpix/s




Its nice to see if STE manages to finally release its 9600 until 2014 it will be highly competitive with qualcomm. A a15 architecture with FD-SOI would probably reach the 3GHz barrier and the rogue GPU will most certainly beat adreno 420. Go Go STE (They will probably go bankrupt before that but still )


If STE was that good it would not be going out of business. You don't even know what the performance of adreno 420 is going to but you are calming that STE can do better?
stedus
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Posted: 2013-02-02 23:02
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It belongs to the Snapdragon 800 family so I think it will appear in the 2H devices )
2014 flagship might even go with better chip
motvikt
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Posted: 2013-02-02 23:52
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On 2013-02-02 21:11:13, DACHA wrote:

On 2013-02-02 19:41:18, motvikt wrote:

On 2013-02-02 13:45:19, Detox wrote:
Qualcomm's APQ8084 leaks:
- Four Krait cores running at 2.3GHz
- Adreno 420
- 802.11ac component
- Capable of pixel fill rates of 4000 Mpix/s




Its nice to see if STE manages to finally release its 9600 until 2014 it will be highly competitive with qualcomm. A a15 architecture with FD-SOI would probably reach the 3GHz barrier and the rogue GPU will most certainly beat adreno 420. Go Go STE (They will probably go bankrupt before that but still )


If STE was that good it would not be going out of business. You don't even know what the performance of adreno 420 is going to but you are calming that STE can do better?


Never said STE was good, I said imagination technology (rogue) was good. Qualcomms adreno has Never been able to compete with powervr, or even mali for that matter, why would they start now? (And considering that adreno 420 most likely is just a higher clocked adreno 330 made possible by the new HPM silicon they are using for the whole soc I really doubt it).

Sony will never beat Samsung or apple as long as they use Qualcomm. They need to build their own, like they did with the vita
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Posted: 2013-02-03 05:04
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Sony will never beat Samsung or apple as long as they use Qualcomm. They need to build their own, like they did with the vita


I don´t think that the choosing of processor manufacturer will effect how good Sony´s phones will sell. 98 % of those who buy a Smart phone couldn´t care less about the phones CPU, GPU etc... it is just "geeks" who care ;P
randomuser
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Posted: 2013-02-03 05:12
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On 2013-02-02 18:39:37, coolkid8689 wrote:
Wow Detox... So shall we expect it to be the chip-set of Sonys 2014 H1 flagship...???!!!


There is no 2014 H1/H2 flagship
maiaramdan
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Posted: 2013-02-03 05:31
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On 2013-02-03 05:12:05, randomuser wrote:

On 2013-02-02 18:39:37, coolkid8689 wrote:
Wow Detox... So shall we expect it to be the chip-set of Sonys 2014 H1 flagship...???!!!


There is no 2014 H1/H2 flagship


wait ramu ))
please don't say any rumors about 2014
this thread is just for 2013
se_dude
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Posted: 2013-02-03 05:33
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Just got confirmed that the Xperia Z will be available in India/Kolkata in the third week of February.
itsjustJOH
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Posted: 2013-02-03 05:37
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There is no 2014 H1/H2 flagship


Just one flagship for the rest of 2014 then?
randomuser
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Posted: 2013-02-03 06:13
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On 2013-02-03 05:37:11, itsjustJOH wrote:

There is no 2014 H1/H2 flagship


Just one flagship for the rest of 2014 then?


No flagships at all. Sony is exiting smartphone market. hahaahahahaha. LOL jk

Yes.

Also, pretty pointless to talk about ST-Ericsson now as its probably not even gonna be around by 2014. And A9600 would not really be competitive even this year, let alone next.

A9600 - 2.5ghz x 2 x 4 = 20000 DMIPS or the same as APQ8064 in the Z
Even @ 3ghz it can only manage 24000 DMIPS.

MSM8974 will do around 32000+ DMIPS, Exynos 5 and T4 will do around 30000.

The GPU would be a different story though. Rogue 6 would have outperformed every single 2013 chip. It does 100+ GLOPS compared to 75GFLOPS of competitors
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2013-02-03 06:22 ]
unknownC151A
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Posted: 2013-02-03 07:36
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The problem with that: Consumers do not care about processor performance. If you put two phones, one with the budget mediatek quad core and the A9600, consumers will choose the mediatek. They care about cores, not raw performance.
XperiaCute
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Posted: 2013-02-03 09:59
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On 2013-02-03 06:13:53, randomuser wrote:

On 2013-02-03 05:37:11, itsjustJOH wrote:

There is no 2014 H1/H2 flagship


Just one flagship for the rest of 2014 then?


No flagships at all. Sony is exiting smartphone market. hahaahahahaha. LOL jk

Yes.

Also, pretty pointless to talk about ST-Ericsson now as its probably not even gonna be around by 2014. And A9600 would not really be competitive even this year, let alone next.

A9600 - 2.5ghz x 2 x 4 = 20000 DMIPS or the same as APQ8064 in the Z
Even @ 3ghz it can only manage 24000 DMIPS.

MSM8974 will do around 32000+ DMIPS, Exynos 5 and T4 will do around 30000.

The GPU would be a different story though. Rogue 6 would have outperformed every single 2013 chip. It does 100+ GLOPS compared to 75GFLOPS of competitors
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2013-02-03 06:22 ]




What do you think CPU will sony use in 2014 Flagship ? MSM8984 won't be ready ... MSM8974 won't be acceptable - at least for me - !

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randomuser
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Posted: 2013-02-03 10:32
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Let's not discuss 2014 phones for now
Velexas
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Posted: 2013-02-03 12:46
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Random, what about the H2 2013 flagship? What do we know about it now? If necessary, PM me. Thank you very much
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randomuser
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Posted: 2013-02-03 12:57
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We don't know if H2 2013 flagship even exists. For all we know, it may have been cancelled.
XperiaCute
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Posted: 2013-02-03 13:06
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On 2013-02-03 12:57:23, randomuser wrote:
We don't know if H2 2013 flagship even exists. For all we know, it may have been cancelled.


That really disappointing for me, I thought sony will be the first company to use MSM8974 for both 2H Flagship & Xperia Phablet

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