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Bonovox
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I tested slow talk it works quite clever software
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Miki69
Joined: May 22, 2002
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From: Vienna
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@evilhomura89,
great article, thanks for sharing mate  |
lemmy31
Joined: Jul 06, 2004
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From: Swadlincote
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sorry guys but even with the update this handset is just crap. No discernable improvement in the camera performance, and constant reboots (one of the reasons for ditching the Note 3) and a very real problem that is being experienced by lots of other people apparently. Check the Sony forums.
Is this the best of Sony for the best of me ? I hope not. considering that Sony market this as the best Android cameraphone, they have a lot of work to do ..........I can see my local CEX getting a visit very shortly at this rate.
Anybody up for an trade 
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Geoffxx
Joined: Aug 22, 2013
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I see a pattern - you might want to check some of the software you are installing, I certaintly don't have any of the issues you describe |
lemmy31
Joined: Jul 06, 2004
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From: Swadlincote
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On 2013-10-29 23:01:56, Geoffxx wrote:
I see a pattern - you might want to check some of the software you are installing, I certaintly don't have any of the issues you describe
As I said, check the Sony forums for the reboot issue. Maybe ive been spoilt be having the Lumia 1020 also, but the camera is woeful. The excuses ive seen about trees being blurry on photos because its "windy" are just that......excuses.
You don't see a pattern at all. I have the same apps on my 1020 as I do on my XZ1 (apart from Sky Go, due to availability).......no reboots happening on that........oh and the camera is fantastic.
Please don't think im looking for a argument. Im just voicing my experiences and opinion the same as everybody else.
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Bonovox
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Not had any of them problems you've had lemmy mate. Strange. Nokia isn't a stranger to bugs or reboots. The Lumia 920 was worst for that. As for windy days with blurry trees that does happen but not always.
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moogoo
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i haven't had any issues either. I had one random restart way in the beginning on the initial firmware, but never again. I've had flawless operation. Camera could improve but it's quite good I think. I just don't take as much time as I should to play with it.
It's a shame to hear you're having so many issues. BUt with any device there will be a small percentage that will have issues. It's easy to say that it's a "common" issue because when you search it comes up on the forums and seems like it's a huge thing. But that's cause the only people who have problems report it, while the ones who don't .. well, don't.
have you tried a factory reset, updating to the newest firmware and giving that a go? And, i dunno if you're on branded software or not, but if you are, perhaps try an unbranded one.
as far as camera, i don't think you can really compare. You have the Z1 in a slim case and 1/2.3" sensor and the 1020 with a bump and a much larger sensor (dunno the size off hand). 1020 also has much more control over the camera in manual mode and 41mp oversampling down to 5mp. it clearly has the advantage in just about every way. the Z1 can produce results in its best conditions that can give the 1020's average photos a run for its money. But given the best from both, the Z1 simply can't beat the 1020. and that's just science.
for what it's worth, Sony says it's the best android camera phone, and from what i've seen, it surely is. maybe you're right. perhaps you are spoiled with your 1020.
Anyway, give those suggestions a try if you haven't already and hopefully it'll fix your issues for you. Good luck!
moogoo
Nokia 5160 -> Nokia 8260 -> SE T68i -> SE K700i -> SE Z710 -> SE Xperia X10a -> Sony Xperia S -> Sony Xperia Z1 -> Sony Xperia XZ -> Sony Xperia XZ Premium -> Sony Xperia 1ii
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Bonovox
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I often have found after updating a factory reset solves many issues. Mine has never once rebooted and am having no issues which is amazing for me 
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MyP910
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I don't have any problem as well. I'm thinking to use this phone for a very long time. I've tried with QX100 lens. That lens is sharp.
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reeflotz
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On 2013-10-30 01:57:00, Bonovox wrote:
I often have found after updating a factory reset solves many issues.
+1
Also gets rid of some junk leftovers from the previous firmware and sometimes even lag. Only downside is gotta have to reinstall some apps, but it's not really a problem.
@lemmy31
I'm sorry to hear things aren't working out for you, but the major camera update is still rumored to be by the end of January, just don't expect too high imaging standards, it may or may not equal 1020, only way to find out will be to wait for it if you'll give it a chance.
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MyP910
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The new Sony JPEG engine (from A7 and A7r) seems very good. Is the JPEG engine resides on the BIONZ X processor ? Any possibilities to have the same JPEG engine on Z1 ?
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Gitaroo
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On 2013-10-30 04:55:51, MyP910 wrote:
The new Sony JPEG engine (from A7 and A7r) seems very good. Is the JPEG engine resides on the BIONZ X processor ? Any possibilities to have the same JPEG engine on Z1 ?
according to ZOMG, he saw the preview build of 4.3 update which comes with another big Camera update, new jpeg compress now offers 50% as oppose to the current 80%, but pic will be twice as large. It suppose to have 3 more, normal, fine and super fine and this update is for Z1, ZU, ZL and Z. |
Del
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@Lemmy31 I haven't had the problems your having mate, only one reboot and that was on the older firmware, are you sure it's not a dodgy app?
Have you tried a factory reset?
How about a complete repair install of your firmware via PCC or SUS?
I have to agree with most here that my Z1 is the most complete phone I've had so far but I do agree that the camera is not as good as the 1020 but here hoping that the rumoured 4.3 update will grately improve it, we'll just have to wait and see I suppose.
On a side note all the problems your describing on your Z1 I had with my previous phone and that was a Lumia 920 but I bought that from EE and it was locked to them.
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lemmy31
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Hi Del
I did a clean install when I upgraded via SUS and I did a reset last night. Ive taken a couple of shots this morning and I have to say I prefer the earlier firmware. Thinking of flashing back today.
I had a Lumia 920 from EE and had no problems at all.....strange isn't it.
Ive also noticed that I am getting a lot of flash light bleed on the right side of any photos taken in really low light. Have you had any problems like this ? It doesn't happen on close shots just longish distance. I have tried cleaning the lens and flash areas but no difference.
I cant believe ive got this for two years, it has to improve 
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Bonovox
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I had a brief issue when the previous Walkman app updated whereby the music would stop playing when I went to full volume. The issue was gone after clearing the cache in Walkman. Some are just unlucky and get a bad unit like Del had a terrible Lumia 920 which was in repair 3 times within first month of ownership. As I see it the camera takes great photos just not as good as 1020. In good light with tweaked settings you can get cracking shots. The flash bleed is I'd say a slight design mistake where it's too close to the lens but I don't see why you'd need the flash at such a distance anyway. Nokia is also one to produce not so good cameras with many of their Lumia line up having very noisy images with a very oil painting look to the photos at close inspection with exception of 1020. I see the Sony as way better than many of them except 1020 and I also think many people expect too much from such small sensors anyway. You've seen my pics and it can produce great images with a little bit of side blurring but even the 1020 does to some extent. My screen is also fine and whatever your used to your eyes eventually adjust to a different screen. Had zero reboots and no performance issues at all.
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