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cu015170
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Posted: 2012-12-29 17:44
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So I've been using the 5 for almost two months now.. I still don't understand what is so special about this phone


On 2012-12-26 22:29:21, Hardened wrote:
cu015170, Xenon Flash is done! I've not seen any smartphone manufacturer announce a phone/ship a phone using it since the SE 905 (??); shame on me for having the model wrong.


You are looking in the wrong places...

http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_xt720_motoroi-3090.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_satio_(idou)-2683.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_7_mozart-3530.php

http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_n8-3252.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_808_pureview-4577.php
etaab
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Posted: 2012-12-29 23:00
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Thats the ironic thing about the iPhone 5 the most. Its probably one of the most beautiful phones out there, slightly ruined when you unlock the screen to see the old looking interface. Its starting to remind me of Symbian.
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Miss UK
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Posted: 2012-12-31 12:38
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The interface is easy to use though some of us
want simplicity In phones I guess!

With the updates Apple do change stuff about although
I'm still not that keen On the podcast app which has replaced
the music on all iOS devices
[ This Message was edited by: Miss UK on 2012-12-31 11:41 ]
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etaab
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Posted: 2012-12-31 16:27
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The thing is the interface is generally new and fresh along with Android and WP.

But where it lacks is where the others excel. Homescreens and widgets. Live tiles and proper updating.

Apple went so simple and slick they made the whole thing boring to use.
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Posted: 2013-01-01 00:31
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The truth is that iPhone 5 looks so good in person. The finish of the external design is well made and the whole phone looks premium.
BUuut, this was my first personal iPhone to own (in past I've played with friends/shop iphones) and had one of the most iphone 5 frequent bug: extremely low wifi signal so had to sent back. There are multiple topics with wifi related problems on apple discussion site..
Haven't had too much time to test iOS, but the stock (eg: non-jailbroken) software is very limited in comparison to Android Jelly Bean.
Waiting for the exchanged one..

etaab
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Posted: 2013-01-01 19:16
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I could forgive the lack of homescreens and widgets etc, but what bugs me most about iOS more than anything is multitasking.

Its something ive always used constantly every single time i turn on my phones, ever since i bought a smartphone. I know Apple have done a great job at closing and resuming apps, but its not the same as having the app continue doing what it can do in the background.
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Posted: 2013-01-01 21:21
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Must agree with you Etaab on multitasking, the difference between it on iOS and Android is almost night and day although there is the caching which is similar, the difference being that in Android everything you do generally gets saved while in iOS you sometimes have to start again.
As much as I am loving my iPad, I would hate to own a phone running iOS, it would drive me insane with the lack of proper multitasking.
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Posted: 2013-01-02 04:50
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On 2013-01-01 19:16:41, etaab wrote:
I could forgive the lack of homescreens and widgets etc, but what bugs me most about iOS more than anything is multitasking.

Its something ive always used constantly every single time i turn on my phones, ever since i bought a smartphone. I know Apple have done a great job at closing and resuming apps, but its not the same as having the app continue doing what it can do in the background.



Etaab, I think you hit a major point on the pin-head without realizing it. Multitasking is the just the tip of what makes the iOS stable for non-tech-savy users, but its also the "tip" of all its numbness its restrictions.

The part you've hit without realizing it is this first nation API functionality vs 2nd/3rd party functionality:
only Apple's apps can share data completely with the core OS or other applications. Yes there is a Calendar, Contacts, Clock API's ... but they don't follow standard convention. I want a developer to create an app that attaches Alarms/Reminders/Pictures/VoiceNotes/Video clips to a Note BUT BUT BUT - said developer cannot without a) sourcing media from storage, b) creating its OWN alarm/reminder, and c) without creating a wholly owned app that manages all of this itself: the simple reason why so many Notes apps exist in iOS and its getting crowded and silly - even EverNote seems useless to exist on its own. I see no reason to download or install that app! Even on Android it doesn't make sense - unless you're on a Nexus and running pure/barren.

Don't get me wrong there IS a place for proper GTD (Get Things Done) apps because they work as a project management app. Things! as well as a few others is perfect for this need; but they still have their own alarms/reminders - this so called seemlessness that Apple preaches in iOS is far from it.
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etaab
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Posted: 2013-01-02 13:32
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I read an article somewhere recently where one reviewer of mobile phones said he'd always been unhappy with how poorly iOS simply cannot perform such functions since it cannot multitask and therefore apps for iOS were simpler than their Android counterparts.

This became more apparent when i spent Christmas at my sisters house. Her and her partner both have iPhone 4s (not 4S). My sister and her partner are both into going to the gym, more so now than any other time of the year. We were discussing apps which track you when you go for a run. Ive got Google's own My Tracks app, they had their iOS equivelant. The funny thing is they were both annoyed about how their app had to be kept on screen for the duration of their run, but Google's could be just left running in the background.

It just reminded me of the whole Symbian versus the next generation of OS arguement. Even my N8 can still run such an app in the background whilst you use the phone for other purposes. My sister and her partner were surprised my SGS3 could do such a thing. Which is a surprise, because my sisters boyfriend works in IT as a programmer.
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cu015170
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Posted: 2013-01-02 21:58
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^ right... there is a huge misconception about what Symbian really is. The core itself its actually more "modern" than any of the other so called "new generation" OS-s ... I still think that given enough time, EKA2 would have been the best choice of a core for a mobile/embedded OS.

Of course its not perfect.. but it was made for mobile phones, and it shows. We basically have desktop OSs trying to be mobile (Linux, Windows NT, Unix..) and the other hand we have Symbian which was a phone OS trying to do desktop like things...
Miss UK
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Posted: 2013-01-04 18:44
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iPhones multitask well I can keep several apps open and go back
To them where I left eg podcasts if dint listen to all you can resume
Later on same with a lot of apps!!!

Only thing I've noticed if u forget to frequently update ur iCloud
Business eg. games then when you have to reset then u have to
Replay the game again updating ur iCloud is essential on these
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etaab
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Posted: 2013-01-04 21:02
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But thats not multitasking. Thats saving the state of the app, closing it and then opening it again. Then resuming in its state.

It doesnt keep running properly in the background.
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Posted: 2013-01-04 23:10
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Keeping stuff running in the background
Uses a lot of data
( hence why people without unlimited data keep complaining bout large bills )
Plus sluggish phones is another culprit of that!


On iphones I can have lots of various apps running in the background
Athough took me ages to solve how to close apps
Properly once using them I worked out:

By pressing home button twice all apps
Are shown on the screen which are running
U can also swipe this to get access to music and volume
Control dunno if You knew this already etaab?! Lol

The iCloud is very handy I think shame not compatible
For android ( ages to setup phone if at loss lol )
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Posted: 2013-01-05 14:01
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Miss UK!!!!

Examples of multi-tasking apps that aren't using INTERNET DATA:
- profile based on cell location, GPS
- archive extractor.. for example, while you extract something from an archive you may want to write a message or something.
- copy something. same as above ^
- etc

These things can be done on Android stock with no changes. iPhones multi-task is limited by proprietary apps and by different APIs
etaab
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Posted: 2013-01-05 17:40
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Yeah i was just about to say, whats multitasking got to do with networking ? Like i said above, my sisters app cannot track her run unless its left on screen all the time. If she presses the menu button on her iPhone to reply to a text for example, it pauses the app and stops tracking her. Multitasking applies to many apps and functions or features of a smartphone.

What you're seeing on your iPhone is the OS simply pausing apps and resuming them quickly. Very quickly and impressively. Which is fine, but when the processes stop and do not carry on with what they were doing causes people like me problems. Oh and those apps you see that continue running, like a phone call or the iPod music player, they're core apps which come built into the phone and therefore Apple allows them to function at the same time.

Which is sad, because for people like me and many others i know its a silly hinderance which stops us buying iPhones. I really do not understand why Apple do not allow proper multitasking in their phones - maybe someone could give me an answer who's really into iOS.
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