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WhyBe
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@Boinng and Max
Certainly plastic has many different levels of rigidity. From sandwich bags, to cars, to bulletproof "glass".
Glass has that distinctive "plink" sound when you tap it that plastic doesn't. |
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max_wedge
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- @boing it's definitely glass, but glued (EDIT actually not glued as it turns out) to another layer beneath that, so perhaps it is resistive as you say. I'm no expert I accept your better knowledge. Maybe the early problem with resistive screens and light transference have been solved now.
But I can't deny my experience and observations, which is that the screen barely needs to be touched to be activated which indicates to me that the flexibility required on touchscreens is in the micro-millimeter range ie: low enough that a laminate glass screen isn't in danger of being cracked.
Even my i780 can be activated without flexing the screen to any observable degree. If such a minor pressure is enough to activate the touch screen, then the materials that make up resistive layers would need to be resonable rigid otherwise they would flop against eachother without even being touched. (according to wiki touch resistive layers are separated from eachother and activate when pressed together)
note: I just further investigated the xda mini screen - it has a thin plastic protective covering over the top of the glass (about the thickness of a sheet of heavy paper - flexible - this layer is only glued at the sides). I removed this and tried to scratch the glass underneath with scissors and couldn't. It's definitely glass.
The glass surface has a coating (looks like an anti-reflective coating) that rubs off to the touch, hence the plastic protective covering I guess, since the glass is actually more scratch resistanct than the protective covering.
@whybe, because it has the plastic covering on the top until I actually removed the module it wasn't clear if it was glass or not. But with the module removed you can see the glass layer side on and it's obviously glass. And of course with the plastic layer removed it makes the "plink" sound, and is scratch hard to scratch like glass.
Out of curiosity, I just smashed the glass layer(it took a fair bit of force too), and underneath that is another hard plastic layer (not glass) and underneath that the lcd itself.
Actually it's been quite fun destroying this phone! 
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erichui
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On 2008-09-22 17:15:44, max_wedge wrote:
Actually it's been quite fun destroying this phone!
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anonymuser
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Ok, I'll accept there's some glass in there as a layer within that top laminate, but you accept that another necessary ingredient in that laminate is plastic, and that's what really gives it the flexibility (while the glass holds its shape). The point is, one of those thin plastic layers is on top, and while the glass underneath may be scratch proof, the plastic is not.
In other words, the screen is not hard, it's soft! It will flex, and it can be scratched. That's not to say the Iphone or Ipod Touch screen can't be (I'm not sure if that's actual glass either tbh) but I'm pretty certain it's less prone, since they can use a much harder, denser material.
Anyway, you'll be pleased to know that screen protectors are already available - http://www.funkyafone.co.uk/product.aspx?id=5459 
EDIT: I did a little research, and the screen on the Ipod Touch (and Iphone) is indeed solid, optical glass - http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=7865576 - some still claim that a screen protector is a good idea, but nobody's reported actually scratching one..
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lcrkz0023
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T-mobile in London has confirmed the X1..I guess this gives some hope for those of you in the US....
http://blogs.zdnet.com/mobile-gadgeteer/?p=1451
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WhyBe
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Hope for the U.S. ? We can use the X1i on AT&T and T-Mobile already (No 3G on T-Mobile though) |
londonlad123
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I wish tmob would stop the magenta tmob branding then I could actually consider buying it from them. Or at least brand just the back panel. Any info on colours? And how soon? tmob are generally last. |
lcrkz0023
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On 2008-09-22 18:22:44, WhyBe wrote:
Hope for the U.S. ? We can use the X1i on AT&T and T-Mobile already (No 3G on T-Mobile though)
WhyBe,
You're absolutely right. The US needs something. I've been buying my phones unlocked for years so it doesnt really matter to me if they get it or not. Honestly I hope they dont get it, I hate everybody having the same phone as me, hahaha. |
Pierke
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http://www.sonyericsson.com/x1/ |
WhyBe
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On 2008-09-22 18:47:17, lcrkz0023 wrote:
WhyBe,
You're absolutely right. The US needs something. I've been buying my phones unlocked for years so it doesnt really matter to me if they get it or not. Honestly I hope they dont get it, I hate everybody having the same phone as me, hahaha.
I hope we don't live near each other because I feel the same way
I love when people say, "Wow, what kind of phone is that?!". Especially those sales people at the mall kiosks trying to sell me those low-end phones. |
iva_se
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WoooooooooooooW Updated GoooooooooooooD!!!!!!!
XPERIA |
lcrkz0023
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On 2008-09-22 19:17:31, WhyBe wrote:
On 2008-09-22 18:47:17, lcrkz0023 wrote:
WhyBe,
You're absolutely right. The US needs something. I've been buying my phones unlocked for years so it doesnt really matter to me if they get it or not. Honestly I hope they dont get it, I hate everybody having the same phone as me, hahaha.
I hope we don't live near each other because I feel the same way
I love when people say, "Wow, what kind of phone is that?!". Especially those sales people at the mall kiosks trying to sell me those low-end phones.
WhyBe,
You took the words outta my mouth, I've had the same experiences in the mall before. They seem star struck when you actually pull out your phone. Im afraid we are sorta close, I live in Louisville, KY and Im not sure what part of Ohio you're from but nevertheless we're not to far from each other. |
WhyBe
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Well, at least we won't bump into each other at the mall |
lcrkz0023
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On 2008-09-22 19:40:54, WhyBe wrote:
Well, at least we won't bump into each other at the mall
WhyBe,
No kiddin, However I was in Kenwood Towne Ctr Mall in Cincy on Sat visiting the Sony Style store ( and btw, the have no clue about the xperia x1 arrival date for them) So dont tell me you go to that mall. My in-laws live there, I was up there visiting them and went to the Reds game.
Are you getting the X1 and if so have you preordered yet? |
WhyBe
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Yes, I pre-ordered from Expansys. I'm not waiting for Sony Style. They have no clue about release dates either. The salemen there said I'll find out about products before he does |
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