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XperiaJunkie
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Are we likely to see 4.3 before the end of November?
I'm so happy 'cause today
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Hatseflats
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Just ordered 2 of these covers ($1.59):
http://www.ebay.com/itm/161103569568
after a positive review on a dutch forum.
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rency0722
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On 2013-10-25 08:14:06, moogoo wrote:
you can't control the size of the aperture opening without the existence of aperture blades.
i'd like to know if the Z1 camera module has aperture blades or not.
if it doesn't then it is fixed f2.0 and there's nothing software can do to thcnage that.
@rency - it's fixed at 2.0 . none of my photos have a different aperture. which probably means there are no aperture blades to allow for adjusting it. otherwise, the auto settings would do this for us and we would see different aperture settings in EXIF.
[ This Message was edited by: moogoo on 2013-10-25 07:16 ]
Well I also tried on my Xperia Arc, All the scene modes were fixed to f/2.4  |
ascariss
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As I posted earlier, this image shows no aperture blades
Nothing moves in the camera lens areas when you take the photo, so as moogoo pointed out, it is a fixed aperture at F2.0. This can't be changed as it is a physical property of the way the lens is built in the z1. Unless Sony has found a way to change the aperture of a fixed aperture lens, I doubt such aperture control will be like on actual cameras.
Now watching a demo of nokia's refocus app, I feel this is a nice method of creating pseudo aperture control. But I doubt it will be straight out selecting aperture control and having a f5.6 or f8. Who knows, Sony does have the ability to come up with great tech and software at times so perhaps I am mistaken and there will be real aperture control.
Looking forward to 4.3 and the new camera update, I will be ok with larger image sizes if it improves the quality. |
rency0722
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On 2013-10-25 09:22:03, ascariss wrote:
As I posted earlier, this image shows no aperture blades
Nothing moves in the camera lens areas when you take the photo, so as moogoo pointed out, it is a fixed aperture at F2.0. This can't be changed as it is a physical property of the way the lens is built in the z1. Unless Sony has found a way to change the aperture of a fixed aperture lens, I doubt such aperture control will be like on actual cameras.
Now watching a demo of nokia's refocus app, I feel this is a nice method of creating pseudo aperture control. But I doubt it will be straight out selecting aperture control and having a f5.6 or f8. Who knows, Sony does have the ability to come up with great tech and software at times so perhaps I am mistaken and there will be real aperture control.
Looking forward to 4.3 and the new camera update, I will be ok with larger image sizes if it improves the quality.
I think we cannot base on that pic, which is used only for marketing purposes. On that pic, it only shows the lens, not the camera module, which comprises the machinery inside of it. |
vikeviki
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moogoo
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@hatseflat - it's not in the smartconnect and no longer in the settings as it used to be. but i found a free 3rd party app that does it wonderfully called "Keen Screen On".
here are the links you asked for. don't know where you're located but i'm in the US and these are from the US amazon site:
Ultra pod - http://www.amazon.com/Pedco-U[....]91322&sr=8-2&keywords=ultrapod
Tripod Mount - http://www.amazon.com/gp/prod[....]ails_o02_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Sony DK31 - http://www.amazon.com/Magneti[....]382691497&sr=1-2&keywords=dk31
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nodarsixar
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https://play.google.com/apps
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randomuser
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@moogoo
Have you ordered the tripod already ?
It's mentioned in the product page that the tripod works on phones upto 7cm wide only, Z1 is 7.4 cm wide and won't fit in.
And the ultrapod you linked is for compact cameras and won't fit the Z1.
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MNX1024
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@rency0722 & vikeviki
Like I said before and what moogoo mention, aperture is control by the aperture blades. The aperture blades are located in the lens themselves. If you don't believe me, you can easily confirm this if you have an SLR or mirrorless camera. Look into the lens as you change aperture, you'll notice the change in size of the iris, those are your aperture blades. So, according to that press image and if it's an accurate representation of the Z1's lens construction, then give up on any form of aperture control.
EDIT: Fixed up some grammar mistakes due to me being half asleep and typing on my phone.
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ascariss
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On 2013-10-25 11:22:49, MNX1024 wrote:
@rency0722 & vikeviki
Like I said before and what moogoo mention, aperture is control by the aperture blades. The aperture blades are located on the lens themselves. If you don't believe me, you can easily confirm this if you have an SLR or mirrorless camera. Look into the lens as you change aperture, you'll notice the change in size of the iris, those are your aperture blades. So, according to that press image and if it's an accurate representation of lens construction, then give up on any form of aperture control.
+1,
On 2013-10-25 09:59:51, rency0722 wrote:
I think we cannot base on that pic, which is used only for marketing purposes. On that pic, it only shows the lens, not the camera module, which comprises the machinery inside of it.
there is no space even for aperture blades, let alone the entire mechanism in such a thin body and camera module. It would require very small motor to change the aperture and very very tiny blades to be able to have such an iris on a small camera like the Z1. I doubt sony would put so much effort into miniaturization.
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moogoo
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On 2013-10-25 11:13:04, randomuser wrote:
@moogoo
Have you ordered the tripod already ?
It's mentioned in the product page that the tripod works on phones upto 7cm wide only, Z1 is 7.4 cm wide and won't fit in.
And the ultrapod you linked is for compact cameras and won't fit the Z1.
Yes i ordered and received both already.
The ultrapod is for anything with a standard tripod mount and light enough for it to support. In this case, Z1 needs a tripod mount, but it is light so there's no worry there. The tripod mount details must be incorrect because it fits my Z1 just fine with room to spare. You can see the pics I posted of both a few pages back 
@xperiajunkie - wasn't there some news of an xperia device getting 4.3? I can't seem to remember. But anyway, if one is getting it, then as a flagship, Z1 should not be far behind or perhaps will get it before that one.
[ This Message was edited by: moogoo on 2013-10-25 15:52 ] moogoo
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Bonovox
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Wish the update will hurry up in UK
Phone?? What phone?? |
XperiaJunkie
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^ I have an O2 UK branded Z1 and I have had the update for about 5 days now is your Z1 network locked or sim free. ?
Has anyone else got the issue when you try to add an app for the camera and all the current apps are duplicated upto 6 times it isnt causing any issues its just annoying. ?
[ This Message was edited by: XperiaJunkie on 2013-10-25 16:13 ] I'm so happy 'cause today
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randomuser
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@moogoo
Sorry I missed that post of yours. I was looking at tripods for Z1 few days back and found most of them listed 7cm as max width so I thought they probably wouldn't fit the Z1. Glad to know they work
Do post some samples taken with the help of tripod. 
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