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Caspa
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not a hardware 'Back' button... but it looks like the top right corner of the screen is a soft 'Back' button...
have a look at the video on Unwired...
Vodafone UK have the phone on their site with it expected in October...
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anonymuser
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In Windows Mobile, the top right hand of every window has an "X" soft button (like in Windows) which closes the app, usually with the effect of going "back" to where you were before you opened it. Confusingly, the hardware button for this (on most WM handsets) is the "OK" key. So "OK" = "X" = "Back". The X1 does have an OK key - two in fact, one on the bottom right of the front panel, and one on the bottom right hand corner of the qwerty keypad, so it could be said to have a hardware "back" button.
Of course, clicking the X (or pressing OK) to go back doesn't actually close the app, it's still there in the background, until you kill it with a task manager, or exit from within the app's File->Exit menu option (only some third party apps have this).
This is good old Windows Mobile mechanics - rest assured that the Panels will make none of that easier 
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Caspa
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ahh, Microsoft logic... Ok is also Back...
shows I havent used a WM device for years....
its a good thing that it has a hardware "Back" button of some sorts though... Personally i'm fine with just the touchscreen but alot of people seem to want hardware keys... |
WhyBe
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On 2008-09-20 00:46:15, Boinng wrote:
Of course, clicking the X (or pressing OK) to go back doesn't actually close the app, it's still there in the background, until you kill it with a task manager, or exit from within the app's File->Exit menu option (only some third party apps have this).
I think there is a new option in WM6.1 that will allow you to completely terminate the app when the 'X' is pressed. |
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On 2008-09-19 19:47:16, Nitro Fan wrote:
On 2008-09-19 12:08:06, strizlow800 wrote:
X1 should support 8GB and 16GB cards...
P.S. The memory question with P990, I have seen people that have 4GB memory sticks in their P990 and the phone is doing well.
yep mine worked fine with 4Gb (Still does) but the 8gb card was a definite NO No
In case it was never made known before, 8GB works as flawlessly as a 128MB card would in a P990. The retailer I bought it from advised me against buying it too but I proved her wrong. It turns out that the notion of bigger cards would result in slow performance is just an urban legend. I was tempted to try a 16GB card a few months back but never got myself to do so because it was a case of "you try it, you buy it".
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anonymuser
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On 2008-09-20 02:17:55, WhyBe wrote:
I think there is a new option in WM6.1 that will allow you to completely terminate the app when the 'X' is pressed.
No, that's not part of 6.1 (and not the official Windows Mobile way) its jus an option on some third party task managers, such as the one HTC use. Switch it on and a long press on the on-screen X (not the button) will close the app. it's probable the same task manager is in the X1 I suppose, branded for SE.
I've been using 6.1 for months on my Tytn II, and trust me, it's not exactly a revolution...
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JD4341
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On 2008-09-20 00:46:15, Boinng wrote:
In Windows Mobile, the top right hand of every window has an "X" soft button (like in Windows) which closes the app, usually with the effect of going "back" to where you were before you opened it. Confusingly, the hardware button for this (on most WM handsets) is the "OK" key. So "OK" = "X" = "Back". The X1 does have an OK key - two in fact, one on the bottom right of the front panel, and one on the bottom right hand corner of the qwerty keypad, so it could be said to have a hardware "back" button.
Of course, clicking the X (or pressing OK) to go back doesn't actually close the app, it's still there in the background, until you kill it with a task manager, or exit from within the app's File->Exit menu option (only some third party apps have this).
This is good old Windows Mobile mechanics - rest assured that the Panels will make none of that easier
[ This Message was edited by: Boinng on 2008-09-19 23:50 ]
Thanks for the reply guys.
In WinMo, as you say, 'x' will end (but not close) an application but that is not the same as 'back'. I should be more clear. When I say 'back' I mean it in the sense of how you would browse windows on a PC (or UIQ on a P1), in a windows browser you have a back button to take you back one screen or operation. The 'X' in WinMo will just take you out of the app altogether, this can be frustrating and time consuming, at least it was on my limited experience of WinMo on the OMNIA. That's why I was interested to see what looked like a back button on on the TOUCH HD and why I was hoping there woudl be similar on the X1.
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On 2008-09-20 11:36:49, JD4341 wrote:
Thanks for the reply guys.
In WinMo, as you say, 'x' will end (but not close) an application but that is not the same as 'back'. I should be more clear. When I say 'back' I mean it in the sense of how you would browse windows on a PC (or UIQ on a P1), in a windows browser you have a back button to take you back one screen or operation. The 'X' in WinMo will just take you out of the app altogether, this can be frustrating and time consuming, at least it was on my limited experience of WinMo on the OMNIA. That's why I was interested to see what looked like a back button on on the TOUCH HD and why I was hoping there woudl be similar on the X1.
I'm not sure what that back button on the HD does (the Touch Diamond and the Touch Pro both have the same button so presumably the knowledge is out there) but there's no consistent "back" function in WM, only the OK/X function. Perhaps HTC are anticipating something new in WM7? |
WhyBe
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On 2008-09-20 11:36:49, JD4341 wrote:
Thanks for the reply guys.
In WinMo, as you say, 'x' will end (but not close) an application but that is not the same as 'back'. I should be more clear. When I say 'back' I mean it in the sense of how you would browse windows on a PC (or UIQ on a P1), in a windows browser you have a back button to take you back one screen or operation. The 'X' in WinMo will just take you out of the app altogether, this can be frustrating and time consuming, at least it was on my limited experience of WinMo on the OMNIA. That's why I was interested to see what looked like a back button on on the TOUCH HD and why I was hoping there woudl be similar on the X1.
Cheers JD
Well, the panels button always takes you back to the panel screen to choose another panel. What specifically are you looking for in a 'back' button. Web browsing or file explorers? |
tregba
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After just taking receipt of a Touch Pro, the back button on it (and presumably the HD) performs similar to to an 'OK' or 'X' buton on previous devices. That is, it wil NOT always take you back to the previous screen. It just minimizes the app and takes you to the screen of the app before. So, if there were submenus in the app you pressed 'back' in and you went through all of them, it will not necessarily take you back through all of them (just the main app). If that makes sense?!
On a sidenote, after using this device for about two days it is definitely being substituted for an X1! It's a good device but just doesn;t do some key things well. One of them is sound quality, using my Triple.Fi 10's reveals the DSP to be pretty weak! I'm not sure if this will be fixed with the X1 as it is too made by HTC but I'm pretty sure the usb to 3.5mm adapor is partly to blame though the DSP is definitely the main offender.
Secondly is reception, keep losing/finding signal. For a phone, a constant signal shouldn;t be too much too ask for. Hoping this is fixed with the X1 but again, I'm have my reservations seeing as the antenna placement again is at the bottom of the device. I guess I'll have to wait and see till Oct...
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Qoroite
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On 2008-09-20 02:33:38, mode wrote:
On 2008-09-19 19:47:16, Nitro Fan wrote:
On 2008-09-19 12:08:06, strizlow800 wrote:
X1 should support 8GB and 16GB cards...
P.S. The memory question with P990, I have seen people that have 4GB memory sticks in their P990 and the phone is doing well.
yep mine worked fine with 4Gb (Still does) but the 8gb card was a definite NO No
In case it was never made known before, 8GB works as flawlessly as a 128MB card would in a P990. The retailer I bought it from advised me against buying it too but I proved her wrong. It turns out that the notion of bigger cards would result in slow performance is just an urban legend. I was tempted to try a 16GB card a few months back but never got myself to do so because it was a case of "you try it, you buy it".
Yep same here, had an 8GB card in my P990 for quite a while now; always worked just fine. |
pinguino1
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On 2008-09-20 15:46:45, Qoroite wrote:
On 2008-09-20 02:33:38, mode wrote:
On 2008-09-19 19:47:16, Nitro Fan wrote:
On 2008-09-19 12:08:06, strizlow800 wrote:
X1 should support 8GB and 16GB cards...
P.S. The memory question with P990, I have seen people that have 4GB memory sticks in their P990 and the phone is doing well.
yep mine worked fine with 4Gb (Still does) but the 8gb card was a definite NO No
In case it was never made known before, 8GB works as flawlessly as a 128MB card would in a P990. The retailer I bought it from advised me against buying it too but I proved her wrong. It turns out that the notion of bigger cards would result in slow performance is just an urban legend. I was tempted to try a 16GB card a few months back but never got myself to do so because it was a case of "you try it, you buy it".
Yep same here, had an 8GB card in my P990 for quite a while now; always worked just fine.
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Caspa
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/gears/sets/72157607372972855
some decent photos from some event in London... theres a couple that show the SE Panel/UI in more detail... |
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